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My Ex-Boyfriend’s Ex-Wife Didn’t Thank Me

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | December 24th, 2019 | Letter 1 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: During the time I was with my now-ex-fiance, I treated his kids like my own and purchased small gifts for Valentine’s, birthdays, Easter, Christmas, etc. I bought his ex-wife a small box of chocolates one Christmas, and a tin of flavored popcorn the next year as a gesture of politeness.

I did such because despite my parents having had a nasty divorce, they never bad-mouthed each other and made certain the other had a gift from my brother and me. So, I was raised seeing that positive and mature behavior from my parents.

While the kids said thank you, I never received a thank-you from the ex-wife -- she never told my fiance to thank me, never told her kids to tell me on her behalf, nor did I receive such via a holiday card.

To clarify, I didn’t expect a gift in return from the ex-wife or kids. I realize that the ex-wife might have taken my gesture as an attempt to suck up to her, which it wasn’t. Yet I find it incredibly rude that she never said thank you on any level.

Now I am dating again. What should I do if I find myself in the same situation? Were my past actions too nice?

GENTLE READER: “Too nice” is not a concept with which Miss Manners is familiar, and she never wants to discourage generosity. But there is a difference between keeping up customs with someone you have divorced and doing so with a stranger that someone else has.

If the presents were intended to come from the children, the ex-wife would have had no reason to thank you. But if you considered her indebted to you for providing them, you would have given the lie to that and left her understandably flummoxed.

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Miss Manners for December 24, 2019

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | December 24th, 2019 | Letter 2 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: We’ve been close friends with a couple for over 15 years, frequently going out for dinner together, spending weekends away together and hosting each other in our homes. We’ve always spent a few days away celebrating New Year’s with them.

This year, I asked if there were plans, and hadn’t heard anything for about a week, so I just asked again. They replied four hours later, stating that they were away with another couple for the weekend and they would be home on New Year’s Eve, late afternoon, if we wanted to go to a party they were invited to. They wanted us to tag along.

I am disappointed that they so casually tossed us aside like this after so many years of being together! What and how should I respond when they text us to see if we are able to go with them? I prefer not to even answer, I’m so hurt, but my husband says it’s rude to ignore them.

GENTLE READER: And also to expect that they were bound forever to a standing date.

Miss Manners agrees that they handled this awkwardly by not responding to your first inquiry. Perhaps we can allow for the possibility that their travel prevented them from getting your message.

But asking you to attend a party to which you were not invited by the hosts is beyond awkward. Of course you cannot go. A polite response that would force your friends to rekindle normal social relations with you would be to send good wishes for the New Year.

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Andrews McMeel Syndication, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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Friend Fed Up With Pointless Texts

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | December 23rd, 2019 | Letter 1 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I have a longtime friend who constantly texts me with information and photos about people I don’t know, their vacations, that their planes have landed, personal marriage information, etc.

This is done at all hours of the day. I don’t care about this mostly useless information. I used to feel obligated to answer every text, but it is wearing on me, so I have begun answering only the ones I feel are important. Then I get a text asking if I’m OK.

If she is telling me all of this, what personal information of mine is she giving out? How would you handle this? She is a very sensitive person, and I can be quite harsh sometimes.

GENTLE READER: You mean she is touchy. Sensitive would mean being sensitive to your feelings, interests and schedule. But she is not thinking, “Oh, Caitlin will want to hear that the Mumfords landed safely, but that their marriage is in danger,” or “I should wait until a decent hour before texting.”

Miss Manners would think this particular friend would be a good correspondent not to have. What she sends you is irrelevant, intrusive and boring, and you can’t trust her not to spread information about you.

If the friendship is worth keeping for other reasons, at least stop pretending to tolerate the gossip. The answer to whether you are all right is that you are, and to why you didn’t respond is that you had nothing to say about it.

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Miss Manners for December 23, 2019

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | December 23rd, 2019 | Letter 2 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: Every Christmas, I am the recipient of a card from a really darling relative. This relation makes a charitable gift to a third party, and then sends me the card as an acknowledgement of her giving (which is noted as being done on my behalf).

It is, of course, a thoughtful gesture. However, I am unsure exactly how to respond. Do I thank her for thinking of me? Or do I thank her for thinking of others (the third party)?

I understand her charitable giving. What I do not understand exactly is how to acknowledge her efficiency in getting the two birds with one stone (a card to me and also a donation to a charity). I feel almost chastised for not having made the charitable gift on my own (which I recognize is not at all her intention). But how does one properly respond to such a “gift”?

GENTLE READER: Having always deplored this two-fer trick, Miss Manners finds this neither darling nor thoughtful nor truly charitable.

The advantages to the giver are obvious: money saved by counting the donation as also fulfilling the obligation to buy a present; the satisfaction of feeling doubly charitable, and a tax write-off besides. The recipient gets -- nothing. Not even a choice of charities. Miss Manners has even been told of people being “honored” with donations to causes they oppose.

No wonder you are puzzled about giving thanks.

Still, you cannot politely ignore the gesture. Try: “Thank you for thinking of me. I hope that your favorite charity appreciates your generosity.”

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Andrews McMeel Syndication, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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Did My Boyfriend’s Mom Snub Me Via Christmas Card?

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | December 21st, 2019 | Letter 1 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I am 50 years old and have been living with a man for more than eight years (we are both divorced). I have always had a good relationship with his mother, with no issues.

Over the years, we have received holiday cards from his mother addressed to both of us (just our first names, which totally works) and signed “Love.” But this year, the envelope was addressed only to her son; enclosed was a “son”-specific card signed “Love,” and a second card to me with only her name noted.

I mentioned this to my partner and he said, “What is the big deal? You got a card.” I told him that it was hurtful.

Am I being too sensitive, or do you think there is something bothering his mother about me that she will not express and is telling me through this action?

GENTLE READER: Not knowing how this lady generally operates, Miss Manners could not say. It is her usual policy, however, to assume the best.

If you are anxious to find out her intention, you may do so delicately by saying, “It was so kind of you to think of me, as always, with a holiday card. Even more so to go to the trouble of getting us two. But really, Lance and I are at the point where we can share one card. Was there any reason you thought otherwise?”

Then be prepared for an answer ranging anywhere from “I thought you would like the picture of the cats” to “Yes, get away from my son.”

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Miss Manners for December 21, 2019

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | December 21st, 2019 | Letter 2 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: When two couples go out for drinks and sit at a bar, do the two women sit in the middle, or the two men?

GENTLE READER: It depends. Which of the two have more to discuss?

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Miss Manners for December 21, 2019

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | December 21st, 2019 | Letter 3 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I was raised by horribly abusive cult members. As it turns out, they did me a great kindness by excluding me from their lives when I came out as a gay man, decades ago, at age 17. As far as they have been able, they have continued to be abusive. I avoid them as best I can.

When well-intentioned people ask about my family, I usually say that I don’t know them. This often serves to let discerning people know that I don’t want them to pursue the subject any further.

What can I say to those who persist in asking further questions? I realize that those lucky enough to have supportive and loving families sometimes cannot imagine a situation as dire as mine was, and I don’t wish to be abrupt or unpleasant to them.

GENTLE READER: Saying that you do not know your parents, Miss Manners fears, sets the nosy -- and maybe the ordinary -- brain reeling, wondering how that is actually possible.

“I am afraid that I am not currently in touch with them, but thank you for your concern” might serve your purpose better. It also has the advantage of being more relatable, even if others’ circumstances are not nearly as dire as yours.

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Andrews McMeel Syndication, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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