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Rude Remark Gets Flippant Response at Cocktail Party

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | December 8th, 2018 | Letter 1 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I share a name with a high-profile politician, and recently attended a cocktail party for my husband’s office. As I was being introduced to the wife of one of his colleagues, upon hearing my name, she wrinkled her nose and said, “Ugh! Oh nooooo, I haaaate that name. All I can think of when I hear that name is (politician).”

I stared in shock for a beat, then said, “Well, I guess we can’t be friends. Darn.” Then turned and walked away.

Other co-workers think this will eventually come back to bite my husband. He doesn’t care a whit. What should I have said?

GENTLE READER: What you said was not the issue. It was rather how you likely said it, and the abrupt turn afterwards, that may have future repercussions.

How lucky that you have a husband who found it charming. Miss Manners hopes that his loyalty -- or disinterest, as the case may be -- continues for any future career endeavors. She recommends, however, that neither of you consider politics.

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Miss Manners for December 08, 2018

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | December 8th, 2018 | Letter 2 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: My son and his future wife have decided to have their wedding and reception with “no children,” other than his and her nieces and nephews. We are a very large family, so this is tough, although we are coming to accept it.

Now, for the shower I am planning for them, they have said they want “women only.” Well, this cuts out all men and single male cousins. And some of the older women won’t be able to come, as their husbands are their drivers. Some of the new moms aren’t sure about attending, as who will watch the kids?

How much say does the bride-to-be have in the upcoming shower? It feels like my family is slowly being excluded. Or should I shut up and be happy that at least I’m invited to the wedding?

GENTLE READER: This bride would certainly have you think so. That she wants to exclude children is problematic, as the guests will see all those nieces and nephews and not necessarily check their bloodlines.

That she wants sole dictatorship over who comes to a shower that you are hosting (or, more likely, have been instructed to host) without practical consideration for her guests is equally officious. While not a tradition with which Miss Manners agrees, she supposes that the bride is presuming that “women only” is traditional for showers. But then, traditionally, showers are never given by family members -- or ones to be.

You might politely point out the many inconveniences these exclusions pose for her guests. Or, if that has no effect, perhaps the notion of receiving fewer presents will.

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Miss Manners for December 08, 2018

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | December 8th, 2018 | Letter 3 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: In planning for my mother’s 80th birthday celebration, I thought it would be nice for her husband, each of her children, her siblings and her best friend (of 75 years!) to wear corsages/boutonnieres.

Mother’s, of course, would be a little more grand than the others. Would this all be appropriate?

GENTLE READER: Only if your mother approves. While a well-meant gesture, pinning the key players with identifying foliage is redundant at best. Presumably, most of your guests -- and with any luck, your mother -- will know who they are. But if you and she would like it, Miss Manners will not stand in the way of anyone and her greenery.

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Andrews McMeel Syndication, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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Horror Stories Not Helping Travelphobe

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | December 7th, 2018 | Letter 1 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: My husband’s family lives on the east coast, and we live in the Midwest. I have spent the last few years working to overcome a phobia of flying, both to make it easier to see my in-laws and because it matters to me that we have the option to travel wherever we may wish. I’ve never avoided taking a flight, but it has been a challenging experience at times.

My mother-in-law is generally a wonderful person, but can fixate on certain topics. She hates to travel, and frequently shares stories about how travel was difficult or uncomfortable for her in the past, or shares worries about all of the things that could go wrong while traveling in the future.

This is not helpful to me as I work on overcoming my phobia, to say the least. I hesitate to tell her about my fear, because I have a suspicion that the phobia itself would become her next topic of fixation. Her worries also stress out my husband, but do not have such a long-lasting effect on him as they do on me.

Are there polite ways to ask her to stop sharing these stories and worries? How blunt should I be, with the goal of both avoiding extra worry and maintaining familial harmony?

GENTLE READER: Much like the harrowing tales of childbirth experiences relayed to expectant mothers, these stories should not be shared with anyone vulnerable.

However, as your mother-in-law does not seem able to resist, perhaps you could get her to stop by showing her the consequences of her fear-mongering. Miss Manners recommends something along the lines of, “Oh dear, you’re scaring me -- and I certainly don’t want to be frightened out of flying to visit you. We are so thankful that it has not yet prevented you from coming to see us.”

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Miss Manners for December 07, 2018

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | December 7th, 2018 | Letter 2 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I have a friend who moved away years ago. Every year, she asks to return and stay with my family and me, at our chosen date, with her two very badly mannered children.

She has lots of old friends in town that she wants to see, and invites them for dinner at my house, generally treating my home as her hotel. And the kids are loud, draw on tables with permanent marker, and overall are bad houseguests.

Because I work from home, this is disruptive, and it’s a week my husband and I dread. Since she asks me to choose the date, it is difficult for us to get out of or decline the visit. Any suggestions for how to handle an unwelcome, self-invited guest?

GENTLE READER: Renovate your home. And acquire slow contractors.

If that proves impractical, Miss Manners suggests you simply say, “I am afraid this year is an especially busy one and we are unable to have you here. However, if you are in the area and staying with one of our other friends, we would love to get together for dinner or coffee. We’ll bring the markers.”

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Andrews McMeel Syndication, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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Whose Time Zone Is It, Anyway?

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | December 6th, 2018 | Letter 1 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: When conversing with someone who is many time zones away, what is the proper greeting? For example, if it is my morning and their afternoon, should I say “good morning” or “good afternoon”?

The prevailing advice seems to be that you should just use “hello.” But if the other party greets you first with “good (time of day),” replying with “hello” seems inappropriate because it is not parallel to the greeting you received. A British colleague suggested “good day,” but that phrase is so uncommonly used in American English that it seems too stiff.

GENTLE READER: Although it is a formality, the literal meaning of the greeting is to wish someone good fortune for a specific period of time. Telling a British friend, over the phone, to have a good day is therefore unlikely to be effective, as his or her day is likely already coming to a close. “Good evening” would be more appropriate in that case.

Miss Manners notes that in addition to the logic in offering wishes for a good evening, it provides an opportunity for you to recognize that you are aware you have interrupted dinner -- something you would not have done if the subject of the call were not so urgent.

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Miss Manners for December 06, 2018

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | December 6th, 2018 | Letter 2 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: We are fortunate to have a close-knit group of about seven families ready to help each other in times of crisis. As is common in any such group, our family feels closer to some families than to others.

Family A, we are very close to. We feel comfortable sharing personal information and seeking advice from each other.

Family B, we are not as close to. Our relationship is cordial and formal, but can’t be described as deep.

Wife of Family A doesn’t like to discuss her health much. When she had surgery, only our group of seven families was told about it. Later, I came to know that Family B is discussing A’s health condition with others. When a family outside of our group called us about A’s health, we pretended ignorance and changed the topic.

Initially, we ignored this single instance of news-leak, but we have come to know that Family B is spreading the news to many others. We understand that their intentions are good, but they need to use a little more discretion.

Should we just ignore this, or should we take some action to prevent future leaks, thereby respecting Family A’s preference for privacy? For example, should we advise our close friends (Family A) to gently remind Family B not to not discuss A’s health with others? Or should we call Family B directly and advise them to use more discretion?

GENTLE READER: You are asking how to correct another person’s manners -- which would be impolite -- without being impolite. As your motivation is the laudable one of sparing Family A’s feelings, Miss Manners will assist you.

Say nothing to Family A. Doing so would be to gossip about -- and criticize -- the behavior of Family B, to hurt Family A (who were presumably unaware of what was occurring), and would not resolve the problem.

Strike up a conversation with Family B and weave in a story or two demonstrating Family A’s reticence to discuss health matters openly. This is known as dropping a hint.

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Andrews McMeel Syndication, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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