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Parent's Social Media Faux Pas Aren't Worth Correcting

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | December 1st, 2015 | Letter 1 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: A mom takes lots of pictures of her daughters. The baby is almost 1 year old; the other is 5. She posts the photos on social media with captions such as "Baby versus girl." The baby's thighs are often mentioned with the nickname "Pork Chops." The mom often refers to the differences in her girls' body sizes.

The photos that sent me over the edge were two pictures of the mom measuring the girls' thighs, showing the baby's thigh was as large as the girl's. I wrote the mom a private message saying I wished she wouldn't do that, and the mom blew up.

So many females have negative body images, and I was afraid the mom was sending the wrong message to her daughters. Now what do I do?

GENTLE READER: Abusive actions call for sterner interventions than those available to etiquette. But failing such extreme situations, Miss Manners notes that it is just as difficult to discipline other people's parents as it is to discipline other people's children. Part-time parenting from third parties is usually as futile as it is unwelcome. You owe her an apology -- not for your view, but for interfering.

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Bride-to-Be Shouldn't Push Fiance to Extract Money From His Parents

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | December 1st, 2015 | Letter 2 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: This will probably come off as conceited and self-absorbed, but I need to know! We are trying to budget our wedding, but how can we do that if a percentage is hanging in limbo?

I do not expect my parents to help us, as they have already given us more than we ever thought, and we haven't heard a peep from them. I am on great terms with his mother, so I would have no problem straight up asking for a yes or no, but God bless my fiance, he doesn't even want to ask.

So, am I rude to even ask, or do I have the right to know so I can keep planning with or without the money?

GENTLE READER: Please do not begin your marriage by pushing your fiance to extract money from his parents, when you know that he does not want to do so. (And God bless him for that, indeed.)

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Wife Wishes Husband's Family Would Just Talk to Her Directly

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | December 1st, 2015 | Letter 3 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: My husband's family uses what I term "third-party communication." In other words, rather than contacting me about something that pertains to me, such as my car, they will contact him, who in turn contacts me.

None of them see anything wrong with this. I consider it going around me, which I find offensive, and they say this is how they've always done it, and that basically I'm the only one who has a problem with it and I'm being ridiculous about it.

I would like to know what the official etiquette protocol is, and I would venture to say that it isn't their method.

GENTLE READER: Whether or not this is how your in-laws are used to communicating, it has a flaw that Miss Manners suggests you use to your advantage. Not being present, how can your in-laws be sure the message was delivered?

But, as you ask, "official protocol" often does countenance or even suggest conveying potentially annoying messages through those known to be on closer terms with the recipient.

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Universal Uclick, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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Learn to Live With Your Relatives if You Can't Turn Them In

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | November 29th, 2015 | Letter 1 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS -- Thanksgiving Day, 15 for dinner. Everyone wants to bring something, so a "want list" is made and guests sign names to what they will bring.

One guest asks to bring two main vegetable dishes and is told that the dishes are already taken by another guest. She says that she is bringing one of the dishes anyway because her kids (all adult) like it. She asks to bring the other dish and is told no.

This guest is in charge of all the appetizers because they were the only items left -- she waited until the day before Thanksgiving to look at the list. This guest is also notoriously late so I (and I know that it is rude) asked her to come on time because there would be no other food for the guests until dinner.

Ten minutes after she was expected, she called and said that she would be a little late but she was sending her daughter with the appetizers. Her daughter arrived, but with only a few items and was missing crackers and dip for a veggie platter.

An hour and half late, she arrived with the missing appetizers and began to put them out. I asked her not to, because we were preparing food for the table, and she put them away but acted like I had a vendetta against her. The front door opens, and the two dishes that she was requested not to bring were brought in and put on the dining table.

This behavior has happened on and off over the years, but I thought that the sign-up list and telling her no would be adequate.

To top off a ruined holiday meal for me, another guest cornered me in the kitchen after the dinner, telling me that she hoped that she was "not overstepping her boundaries," but that she was worried about my health and my weight, and talked for minutes about getting healthy, buying an exercise bike, etc.

I smiled and responded politely and wondered why these two guests were brought up in barns.

How can you ensure that your guests (relatives) will be respectful of your meal, respectful of the work and planning of a meal, and respectful of me as a hostess? Any hints?

GENTLE READER: If clear instructions don't work, hints are not likely to help. The best solution would be to trade in this crowd for a more reliable set.

Failing that, you should get to know the ones you have. You know that Irma is always late, so you don't trust her with the hors d'oeuvres or anything else essential to the meal. You know that she is going to bring what she wants, regardless of what you say, so you set up a separate little table for them and announce, "Look at all the extra treats Irma brought us!"

You also know that someone is going to tell you how to improve your life -- in every holiday gathering, there is at least one person who does -- so Miss Manners advises you to practice saying, "Do you really think I could hope to become more like you?"

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Miss Manners for November 29, 2015

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | November 29th, 2015 | Letter 2 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I read Miss Manners faithfully each week, and only just now find myself wondering, whom does Miss Manners consult when she is stumped by a gentle reader's question?

GENTLE READER: But this is the first question that has stumped her.

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Universal Uclick, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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Wedding Gifts, Not Guests, Are Welcome at Private Ceremony

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | November 26th, 2015 | Letter 1 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I am having a small private wedding. Would it be appropriate to send announcements to everyone else saying it is a private ceremony but let them know that we are registered?

GENTLE READER: Like what? "Your presents, but not your presence, are kindly requested"?

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Miss Manners for November 26, 2015

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | November 26th, 2015 | Letter 2 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: My children attend a public high school where they are two of the eight students in the school who are not African-American. This was pretty much the case in middle school as well, and was never a problem then.

Now, however, the atmosphere seems to be different. They are seldom addressed by their actual names; instead, their fellows call them by monikers having to do with their race. "Whitey" is the most common, and while I don't think it's in the best of taste, my children tell me it is usually said casually and often with affection. My daughter is also assailed with "Snowflake" by some of the young men with whom she is not familiar, which concerns me more.

I could deal with all that, but there exists a minority of students who emphatically do NOT speak with affection. They call my son names such as "cracker," "honkey" and "white boy," all in a context of outright aggression. My son tries to avoid these people, but they do cross paths from time to time.

I have spoken to the principal and asked him to tell the students in question to mind their manners. He replied that the young men had a right to express their grievances against what he called "the ruling classes," and that they were simply using the common vernacular. He said it was a sign of prejudice on my part to judge their "simple speech" as less worthy of serious consideration than what he termed "the vocabulary of the privileged."

He also claimed that I and my children "owe a debt to the black community" because our race oppressed theirs. Therefore we ought to accept any and all recriminations. When I said that that sounded like racial discrimination, he got quite agitated and told me that "racism doesn't work that way."

I have always tried to treat people decently. I am not aware of having oppressed anyone, and my children certainly haven't. I've already reported the principal to his superiors and have yet to get a response. In the meantime, what ought I to do, and how should my children respond to racial taunts?

GENTLE READER: Do not let them tolerate it. Racial discrimination does, in fact, work that way.

The solution to the abomination of racism, historic and current, is not to fight back with taunts when none are provoked -- especially not with innocent children. This does not promote tolerance on any level.

That this principal is condoning and even encouraging this behavior is appalling and calls into question his agenda, his profession and his morals. Tell your children to respond, "I'm sorry, but I would never call you a derogatory name based on race, and I ask that you treat me as you would want to be treated." And continue to report this principal until action is taken.

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Universal Uclick, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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