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Actual Phone Conversations Are Irritating for Some

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | December 16th, 2014 | Letter 1 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: Nowadays when I call someone, the voice mail message often instructs me to "hang up and text me." This is said in a surprised, aggravated tone, as if I were violating an established rule known to everyone else.

Is this really the etiquette now? People would rather read badly typed, semi-coherent message fragments than have an actual conversation?

I think texting is fine for quick little messages and reminders, but I cannot imagine conducting the equivalent of a normal phone conversation by text. I know people are busy and don't always have time to chat on the phone, but I cannot help thinking that this new directive is rude.

GENTLE READER: It is true that one need not make oneself available to all forms of communication. Miss Manners choses not to get her feet wet at the beach retrieving discarded bottles on the off-chance that they may contain correspondence.

But once you have activated a voice mailbox, it is only polite to check it. Recognizing that one does not always have a choice in such matters, Miss Manners will allow for a gracious message to the effect that this box is not checked frequently, so that if your matter is urgent, you may prefer to use an alternate form of communication.

Meanwhile, send an email -- not a text, because you needn't follow rude instructions -- saying you would like to talk to that person sometime.

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Miss Manners for December 16, 2014

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | December 16th, 2014 | Letter 2 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: At family Christmas gatherings at my brother's house, his wife has an annoying habit of announcing what will be served to the guests, much like a waitress reciting the daily specials at a restaurant. She claims this is "dinner party" etiquette.

GENTLE READER: Not exactly, but it is not improper to do something that will strike you as even more restaurant-like: provide a menu.

Not, Miss Manners hastens to add, a list to be passed out with choices. The proper way to do this is to put little handwritten cards at intervals along the table so that the diners know what is to be served and can pace themselves. These days, fearing the worst, she had better specify that they should not contain prices.

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Miss Manners for December 16, 2014

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | December 16th, 2014 | Letter 3 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: When does the desire and pleasure found in continuing the traditions of the past become an annoying affectation?

I am not speaking of you. Nor am I referring to those rituals most necessary to the comfort of the bereaved or to the celebration of loved ones' accomplishments or milestones. I speak merely of those of us belonging to a generation who enjoy such relatively small courtesies as sending thank-you notes for dinner parties.

When does sending such a note, perhaps on embossed card stock, become an intolerable affectation that rather offends or aggravates than gratifies the majority? Of course, one would otherwise send a more informal thank-you message by way of email or text.

GENTLE READER: We have not reached that point yet -- not because there is nothing left for Miss Manners to do, but rather because the dinner party is sadly disappearing at the same rate as the accompanying letters of thanks. Miss Manners is ordering more card stock, and suggests that you do the same.

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Universal Uclick, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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Exchanging Shopping Lists Is Not Thoughtful Giving

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | December 14th, 2014 | Letter 1 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: Is it possible to discourage or redirect adult relatives away from the practice of making Christmas lists?

I have tried and failed -- so far. At the tender age of 53, I am embarrassed to write out a "Dear Santa" letter, especially since my husband and I are lucky enough to be able to buy everything we need and much of what we want.

My relatives (siblings, their spouses, my mother) are in similarly good financial condition. However, they exert a great deal of pressure to produce these Christmas lists, which suggests to me that they can't be bothered coming up with something to wrap up and put under the tree.

It's depressing -- are we really such strangers to each other? I would be happy to forgo gifts altogether, but that option was not popular with my family. It seems so silly and kind of sad to buy things for people they could easily buy for themselves. It's not really the end of the world to take a chance on someone even if the present later ends up being re-gifted or sent to charity, is it?

GENTLE READER: Like you, Miss Manners has tried and --so far -- pretty much failed to discourage people from trashing the ancient custom of exchanging presents and substituting the exchange of shopping lists.

What (she keeps asking) is the point? The choice of presents is supposed to produce that warm feeling of knowing that someone else has noticed you and considered how to please you. When that element of thoughtfulness is eliminated, what is left?

Of course she knows that the real answer is getting stuff one wants and having other people pay for it. But as a rough reciprocity is required, no one should come out ahead.

Some people solve this by making charitable donations in one another's names, instead, but that, too, is something people should make their own choices about and do themselves, not to mention for which they should get the tax credit.

Until we succeed in making people understand the value and meaning of giving presents, Miss Manners suggests that you nudge them toward a minimal amount of thoughtfulness by listing "A book, DVD or CD that you think I might enjoy."

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Miss Manners for December 14, 2014

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | December 14th, 2014 | Letter 2 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: We just moved to a very small town, away from all of our family and friends. Due to a back injury, I am unable to cook Christmas dinner.

Would it be inappropriate to post on Facebook a request for an invite to spend Christmas with somebody local? It is just my husband and I. If that is OK to do, what would be an appropriate manner to phrase the request?

GENTLE READER: While kindly souls may be grateful for the chance to take in the destitute at Christmastime, Miss Manners has the impression that you do not qualify. And advertising that you would merely like to be invited out is a bit crass.

What you could do is to see whether there are any community organizations that do serve Christmas dinners to those in need, and ask whether there is any help you can offer that would not strain your back. At the least, you will have made overtures to local people who may invite you next year.

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Universal Uclick, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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Wedding Cake Topper Is Not the Place for MacAbre Humor

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | December 11th, 2014 | Letter 1 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: My fiance has a skull collection and has found a bride/groom skull set he would like to use as our wedding cake topper.

I am unopposed to this and see humor in it. My mother feels this is very inappropriate and might offend some guests. I would like to support my fiance and not allow my mother to intrude on our wedding planning, but I am unsure if indeed this is rude, and if I should take my mother's advice.

GENTLE READER: Aside from the disturbing symbolism of a dead couple on a wedding cake, who wants to eat cake with bones in it?

Miss Manners is as appalled by this as she is by the idea that your mother shouldn't have any say in "your" wedding. Your mother is correct in thinking that this will upset guests and will hardly be worth whatever humor you might find in it. Be assured that there will be many ways to support your prospective husband that you need not make public. Start applying them now.

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Miss Manners for December 11, 2014

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | December 11th, 2014 | Letter 2 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: Is it appropriate to mention in a Christmas note with a card that your husband left? Some people I will be sending cards to do not know and will wonder why just one signature.

GENTLE READER? Suppose you received a card saying, "Merry Christmas, my husband left me"? What would you reply?

Miss Manners would have thought that social media postings had eliminated the impulse to fold sad announcements into holiday greetings. Those to whom you are close can be told in a letter or telephone call.

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Miss Manners for December 11, 2014

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | December 11th, 2014 | Letter 3 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: While gift registries may never be "proper," they are a necessity in today's world.

I had a relative who lives far away from me, who neglected to have a bridal registry. She ended up having to make one at the last minute to alleviate the burden of her and her husband-to-be's parents having to field many questions from attendees. They ended up having to start an informal list of what the folks who called in said they were bringing, because these attendees did not want their gift duplicated!

Additionally, it made it easier for me to attend. I was able to order the (large) gift in advance and have it wrapped and waiting on hold for me to pick it up when I got to my destination. All I needed to pack was my handwritten gift card.

It also makes it easier and more economical for the gift giver who is not able to attend. Most registries offer free shipping and free gift wrap. In today's day, when often the events are far from even the hometowns of the recipients, gift registries are important.

GENTLE READER: Sorry, but you are not going to win this argument with Miss Manners, especially when the particular solution you describe (minus the registry) is actually more correct. Having a gift wrapped and sent in advance is the proper way to send wedding gifts and conveniently easier for both the long-distance traveler and the bride who doesn't want to lug home gifts after her wedding.

Miss Manners hopes that she is not the first to inform you that most stores -- actual and virtual -- will ship their merchandise, no registry necessary. And if there are duplicate presents, the bride can always return them.

Now wasn't that easy?

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Universal Uclick, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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