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Offer Praise for the Food -- No Matter Who Made It

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | April 16th, 2009

DEAR MISS MANNERS: When our family went to my aunt's house for lunch, she had made a unique bread cake for dessert and she asked my dad what he thought. My dad responded that he thoroughly enjoyed it, because he did.

On the way back home in our car, the subject of responding to opinion questions related to food popped up. My dad said when it's family, you say you don't like it or you like it for a single dish because they might want feedback for future improvement. He went on to say that if it was a person you don't really know, you always say you liked it no matter what. Then he said that if it was a question about the meal as a whole, you say you liked it no matter who asks you.

My sister and my mom responded that for all three cases you always say you like the meal as to not hurt any feelings whether about one dish or an entire course. What do you think is the proper response?

GENTLE READER: As your mother and sister realize, guests should not act as food critics. Perhaps serious cooks might ask one another's opinions -- and even then, these should be given with extreme tact -- but hosts who inquire are either fishing for compliments or asking for reassurance, and guests are obligated to supply these.

Still, Miss Manners realizes that there is feedback and feed-back. With relatives, you have to be careful not to praise something you don't like with such enthusiasm that they feed it back to you on every visit.

DEAR MISS MANNERS: Purchasing items at stores isn't a simple transaction anymore. Upon handing the sales clerk my money (be it cash, debit or credit card), I find I am being asked more and more often for my phone number, e-mail address, etc. Even if I have chosen to sign up for that particular store's Rewards Program or allowed to be put on their e-mail notification list, I am still asked for my personal information at the sales desk.

What happened with simply paying for my purchase and being on my merry way? How may I respond in a tactful way that I do not wish to broadcast that information and just want to pay for my purchase?

GENTLE READER: Yes, this is a nuisance, and Miss Manners is glad you do not want to take it out on the employee who is compelled to run through all those questions. You can save both of you time by saying pleasantly at the first question, "Thank you, I'm not interested, I just want to buy this."

DEAR MISS MANNERS: My friend becomes quite upset when restaurant servers remove the dirty plates from in front of some diners while others at the table are still eating. She thinks this is very rude. I think it is both efficient and leads to a neater, cleaner-looking table and restaurant.

GENTLE READER: It is efficient, Miss Manners agrees, in that it prompts other diners to gobble down their meals to keep the pace. Unfortunately, this is treating them rudely.

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Minister Violates Congregants’ Privacy

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | April 14th, 2009

DEAR MISS MANNERS: Our new minister has a practice that I find disturbing and inappropriate. When he is notified that a congregant is ill or had surgery, he sends an e-mail (with details) to a list of about 30 people, including the entire staff and officers.

Since e-mail is easy to forward, anyone on that list could share the (sometimes sensitive) information with dozens of friends in just seconds. Is there anyway for me to politely suggest to him that this is an invasion of privacy?

GENTLE READER: There are a great many people today who have never heard of the concept of privacy. So Miss Manners is afraid you had better explain it to your minister.

This is best done with an example: "I know you meant well, but Mrs. Wigglesworth was embarrassed to have everyone know about the state of her uterus."

Lacking such an example, you will simply have to state how you would feel and suggest, somewhat forcefully if necessary, that the minister ask each person's permission before spreading medical reports. Let us hope that he is not rash enough to argue that there is nothing wrong with exposing the state of your body.

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I have an awkward dilemma. We've all heard about people being fired for ranting online about their bosses, coworkers and company policy. Well, a friend of mine ranted about her F-ing boss on Facebook. Her boss is my mother. I don't want to jeopardize this person's career. What to do?

GENTLE READER: Jeopardize this person's career. Your mother may decide to be merciful, but Miss Manners assures you that no civilized person can allow his or her mother to be publicly insulted, deservedly or not.

DEAR MISS MANNERS: You have frowned on the wearing of medals or even school ties that were not of your own. However, is it all right to make an exception when your son or daughter whom you have supported through college gives you a tie to wear of the school that they attended?

Certainly I am not trying to indicate that I was a graduate of the school but only that I have a son or daughter who graduated from that institution.

GENTLE READER: You could argue that there is no essential difference between wearing your child's school tie and wearing a sweatshirt with the school's logo or putting its sticker on your car.

But please don't. Just as symbols are arbitrary by definition, so, Miss Manners must remind you, is their use. There is no logical reason that school ties are considered reserved for those who have attended the school, while other items of clothing can indicate any affiliation, from having donated children to just rooting for its team.

But so it is. If you encounter an alumnus who recognizes the tie, your explanation for your inability to indulge in old-school talk of your era would mark you as an imposter. You would not even have the comfort of pronouncing this snobbish, because, Miss Manners reminds you, you do want to advertise your affiliation with the school. That is not only understandable, but much appreciated by colleges, which have whole stores full of logo items exactly for that purpose.

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Left-Sided Nuptials Leave Reader Cold

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | April 12th, 2009

DEAR MISS MANNERS: As a left handed person, I am offended by your reply that in the act of marrying, a woman stands on the man's left side during the ceremony so she can take his right arm after they are married. Isn't it time that this practice change? Starting with you?

GENTLE READER: This is not the worst case of bigotry and discrimination of which Miss Manners has ever heard. Before you take to the streets in protest, you might consider that standing next to someone, and even offering or taking an arm, does not require use of the hand.

At any rate, if the bride uses her right arm to take the bridegroom's left arm during the ceremony, she uses her left arm to take his right arm for the recessional. Also, Jewish brides stand to the husband's right during the ceremony.

Need we go on, or have you calmed down?

DEAR MISS MANNERS: My son just turned 3-1/2. He has moderately severe hearing loss and wears hearing aids in both ears. As a result, he has even greater problems with volume control than the standard 3-year-old.

This Saturday afternoon, we were at the library. We looked at books for about 15 minutes, checked some out, and then stopped to put his snow suit on to go out. At this point, a man in his 50s came over to me and asked me to keep my son's voice down. I showed him the hearing aids and said that my son was doing the best he could.

The man was disdainful and walked off saying, "Excuses, excuses. Everybody has excuses."

I was cut to the quick and blush to admit that I called after him, "And you're perfect?"

Had we been inexcusably loud at any point, a librarian would have said something. As we were on our way out, could the man not have suffered another 15 seconds?

In any case, a stranger took it upon himself to school me. I should not have responded by showing him my son's disability and asking for tolerance. I didn't think I was trying to put him in his place, but it's possibly how the man felt. And it's possible that it is what I was trying to do, on an unconscious level. After all, parents are not famous for rational reactions when being approached about how they're handling their kids.

What would have been the polite reaction?

GENTLE READER: The offense that most concerns Miss Manners here is the one you committed against your son. Whether or not he picked up every word, he undoubtedly understood that he was being cited as a special case whose hearing loss excuses him from being considerate of others.

There are two bad lessons here, in addition to the embarrassment he will feel increasingly at being singled out. One is that he can get away with behavior that others cannot, and the other is that he doesn't quite fit in with normal people.

The stranger, while no great example of manners, was correct when he said that you offered an excuse instead of an apology. "Sorry we disturbed you" was all that was necessary.

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