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Excuse Me, Pardon Me

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | June 7th, 2001

DEAR MISS MANNERS: When you need to pass seated patrons at a live performance or a movie theater, which way shows better etiquette? My wife, who grew up in Europe, states that the way Americans will shuffle sideways with their backsides facing the seated spectators, is considered rude by Europeans. I say it may have to do with the habit of Americans of buying food and souvenirs before the show or game and then taking them to their seats. I guess Americans don't want to hold their food in the faces of seated fans while looking at the faces of these people.

What is your recommendation? Some married American men could get in the doghouse if they were smiling and staring at the faces and assets of beautiful women on the way to their seats.

GENTLE READER: Well, you certainly do make a revolting -- Miss Manners meant to say compelling -- case for facing away from the spectators. That theater-goers might leer at those they must pass so closely, or drag French fries under their noses would be reason enough to establish the custom of facing away from those who are seated.

But the custom already existed before the invention of the motion picture (and its enhancement with junk food), although not before the invention of the leer. Actually, the correct posture is an angle at which the latecomer is mostly facing away from those he is passing, but at which he can say "Excuse me" if the event has not already begun.

DEAR MISS MANNERS: Is it permissible to have the major participants -- not the bride and the groom -- wear nametags at the reception? Tags for mothers, stepmothers, fathers and stepfathers? Just names, not the relationships, as people should be able to figure those out for themselves once they have the names straight.

Both the groom and our family have confusing relationships with steps and exes. Although there will be a receiving line, and we'll get everybody in the right order, and we'll do introductions, many of the guests will have no clue as to who is who after 10 minutes even though they've gone through a line or been introduced. Is this idea tacky?

GENTLE READER: Life would certainly be easier if everyone bore a label; Miss Manners cannot deny that. But why just names?

The relationships are what people really want to know: "Bernard 'Studs' Woollcott/Bride's Mother's Second Husband." And if you really want to make things easier on the guests, you should also list the ingredients: "Lorelei MacIntosh/Half-sister of Bridegroom/Contains bile, artificial sweetener, some added coloring."

You probably don't want to do that because, if you think about it, you probably don't want to spoil the clothes and atmosphere of the occasion by making it look like a convention. In other words, yes, it is a tacky idea.

But Miss Manners has this comfort to offer you: Wedding guests don't really care whether they get the names of all the relatives, as they do not expect to see them again. And if they do, there are plenty of people around to ask.

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‘Lady’ of the Club

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | June 5th, 2001

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I am a member of a club that has been meeting once a month during the academic year for over 60 years. Our meetings begin with a social hour at a member's house, then we proceed to dinner and an after-dinner talk by another member at the Faculty Club or a local restaurant. In its earlier years, membership was limited to men, most of them professors. But for many years now, women and nonacademics, as well as spouses and guests, have been welcome as well.

Our problem is a young and attractive woman, a successful single professional, who has been a member of the club for two or three years. She has attached herself to an 82-year-old (and long-married) retired professor in her field, one of the senior members of the group. Whenever they are both present (his wife does not attend), she entwines herself about him, crossing ankles, stroking arms, breathing in his ear throughout the after-dinner talk. If he is not present, she may try to go through the same routine with another male member.

May/December romances are all very well. But this predatory woman persists in behaving like a randy teen-age exhibitionist during meetings, distracting anyone in her line of sight, insulting the speaker, and troubling those of us who know the wives of her prey.

One could say it is the duty of these men to temper her behavior. But I fear they may be too old, too confused or too polite to know what to say -- as, I fear, are many of the rest of us, women as well as men.

Is there any civil, inoffensive way to ask this woman to desist?

GENTLE READER: Miss Manners is a bit confused here herself. Why would someone think that politeness forbids disentangling himself from such a situation? Would any gentleman who came upon his wife so entwined accept the explanation that she thought it only proper to succumb?

And why would a gentleman be attending a meeting of academics if he is in such an advanced state of aged confusion that he is unaware that another person has entwined herself with him? Tenure?

Never mind. Your interest should be in preserving the decorum of the meeting, not in safeguarding the morals of the members, which is beyond your jurisdiction, not to say control. The way to do this is for the person who is running the meeting to stop the proceedings and say, "Madam, sir, I'm afraid I'll have to ask you to do that outside."

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I use my given name, Patricia, on my business cards, name tags, etc., but I prefer to be called by my nickname, Pat. In business situations, should I have "Pat" printed on my cards? I do try to have my nickname used on temporary nametags, such meetings and conferences.

GENTLE READER: In an ideal world, you would have your formal name printed on your card and people would address you using only your surname with a title until you said, charmingly, "Oh, please call me Pat."

But you're not in the ideal world; you're in the modern business world. People are probably going to call you whatever first name they read on the card. Perhaps "Hi, Patricia (Pat), how ya doing?"

So, it is just as well that you put only "Pat" on nametags, as that is how you prefer to be addressed. A way to preserve your formal name on your cards -- and offer a semblance of the aforementioned charm -- would be to draw a line through "Patricia" before you hand one over, writing "Pat" there instead.

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Unspoken Tragedy

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | May 31st, 2001

DEAR MISS MANNERS: Would it be wrong for me to not only bring up but to also inquire about the tragedy that ruined my family before I was ever born? Is it really any of my business, as I hadn't even been thought of yet?

See, I have a big sister and a big brother: one 11 years older, one 10 years older. There was another sister that I would have had also, as a big sister, only she drowned in the family's backyard when everyone was home. She was only 3 or 4.

I figured out that had I not had another sibling, well, they would have had her, not me. I kind of found out on my own -- nobody ever told me. To this day, my brother, who is 36, will not talk about what happened.

My parents were divorced by the time I was 6 or 7 and, to be honest, none of us kids is a role-model type adult. There is no communication on any level, no normal family gatherings. I feel knowing the truth about the past will help me resolve issues in my life, but I can't make up my mind because of the risk of hurting my mom and everyone else all over again.

GENTLE READER: Miss Manners hopes that your figuring that you were born only as a replacement for your dead sister is not an example of the way you hope to resolve issues in your life by learning about the past. It does not show talent for separating fact from speculation. You can jump to such conclusions more easily without having any of the information you seek.

All the same, she sympathizes with your curiosity about your family and appreciates your hesitating to hurt their feelings to satisfy it. You might begin your inquiry by research that does not involve them. Birth and death are matters of public record, so you will be able to discover at least the basic facts. There may also have been some journalistic attention on the death, as it presumably occurred when juvenile death was less common that it is now.

Knowing the background will enable you to make a gentler approach, asking your mother what your sister was like, rather than demanding to know what happened to her. Your mother and siblings may still be unwilling to talk, however. In this blabby age, where any reticence is considered unhealthy if not sinful, it may be hard for you to imagine how strong a wall of silence may be. If you want to spare their feelings, you will back away if you encounter it and seek out other relatives or friends who may be able to enlighten you.

DEAR MISS MANNERS: As a teacher, I frequently receive gifts from students during the holidays and at the end of the school year. I gladly write thank you notes to the student. They are always happy to receive them and appreciate having their gifts acknowledged.

This year, I received a few thank-you cards from students, thanking me for helping them out during the school year and for being their teacher. The cards have meant as much to me as the gifts, but I don't know the proper way to acknowledge them. Do I write a thank-you note for a thank-you card?

GENTLE READER: Strictly speaking, a letter of thanks does not require a reciprocal letter of thanks. As you no doubt realize, that would start an endless chain. But just as you enjoy those letters, and the children enjoy your letters of thanks for their presents, children who have taken the trouble to write to you would also enjoy a word of appreciation.

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