DEAR DR. NERDLOVE: I’m 25, on the autism spectrum to a small degree, and have OCD — which, according to my psychiatrist, is treatment-resistant. I’ve tried therapy, multiple medications, and even ECT.
I had a relationship when I was 21. I met the woman through a cold approach – she was 31, we dated for about 1,5 years. Since then, I’ve been trying to meet women the same way, but I’m still single.
I’m needy, I have constant “what if” thoughts:
What if she doesn’t reply to my text?
What if we go on a date and she ghosts me after?
Because of these thoughts, I tend to text too much, looking for reassurance — wanting to know if the date is really happening or if she’s still interested. I realize this behavior can push people away though.
But at the same time, I’ve heard some people say that there are women who like needy guys. So, it confuses me.
Here’s the thing: I’m doing what I thought were the right things.
I go on dates.
I talk about fun stuff, I ask about their lives.
I smile and act warm.
I don’t try to kiss on the first date.
Sometimes, there’s a kiss on the second date.
Then… nothing. They ghost me, stop texting, or reply days later.
I don’t have bad breath, I’m not a bad kisser and I try not to come across as a creep. Dating apps don’t work for most men – I think I’m one of them.
I’m considering picking up hobbies, not just for myself but also to maybe meet women in a natural way. Any suggestions for hobbies that are both enjoyable and social? Also, how to meet women via hobbies? How to show interest there without screwing up everything?
My biggest fear is: What if I never find a girlfriend again?
That thought destroys me. I can’t cope with it. If you have any honest advice – I’d appreciate it.
Bad Brain, No Biscuit
DEAR BAD BRAIN, NO BISCUIT: Ok, BBNB, let’s get real for a second: this is a case of “there’s the question you’re asking, and then there’s the question you’re actually asking.” It’s a part and parcel of “the problem you have isn’t the problem you think you have.” Your biggest problem here isn’t about how to meet women organically or what hobbies you should pick up. Nor is it about figuring out what you’re doing wrong on dates. I’ve written a lot about both, and you should check them out. But those aren’t going to answer the real question that you’re asking. And to be blunt, they’re not going to help until you actually address the real problem. Otherwise you’re just going to be writing back in with the same questions and same problems, just using different words.
Your problem is your brain is screwing with you and you’re trying to deal with it. What you’re ultimately asking is “how do I stop feeling afraid?” You’re doing what a lot of guys have done: you’re trying to find external ways to alleviate the worry and anxiety you feel. I should know; much of the reason why I got into the pick-up scene way back when was because I was looking for ways to never have to worry about getting hurt or – more accurately – how to avoid the fear of being hurt.
It’s the fear that gets you, far more than the reality. The anticipation of what it is going to be like, imagining the circumstances, your reaction… all of that is running through your head like the world’s worst earworm. But the thing is: the reality is never as bad. That doesn’t mean that it doesn’t suck, don’t get me wrong; it’s just that it’s never as bad as you think it’s going to be.
Hell, once it happens, there’s almost a sense of relief, simply because it means now you don’t have to keep bracing for it. All that’s left to do is deal with it. This is one of the reasons why, according to popular myth, the samurai were supposed to consider themselves dead already; accepting the worst meant that they no longer had to fear it.
But more to the point, if you can let go of the fear for a moment and stop letting the anxiety of “what if” screw with your head, it becomes pretty clear that the actual answers to your worries aren’t all that bad. What if she doesn’t text you back? Nothing materially changes. If you go on a date and she ghosts you? Nothing materially changes. Your status quo hasn’t meaningfully changed, except that you now know this individual person wasn’t that interested in dating you again.
I mean, if we get right down to it, the answer to “what if I never have another girlfriend, ever” is “your life will go on and it will continue to be like it is now”. You’ll still have hobbies, your interests, your family and your friends. You’ll have things to do, things to live for and work towards. The biggest change would be knowing that the thing you were anticipating has happened and there’s nothing left to worry about.
Now if this seems cold or uncaring, it’s not meant to be. It’s just to point out that the things you’re afraid of honestly aren’t that scary. It’s the expectation and anticipation that is getting to you, the lack of certainty that means anything is possible, including increasingly baroque Final Destination-esque worst-case scenarios. Knowing means you can let go of the worry and just deal.
This is one of the reasons why the central tenets of philosophies like stoicism is the idea that a lot of our struggles are actually about our reactions to things that are ultimately outside of our control. We can’t, for example, control how people feel about us; as the saying goes, it’s possible to make no mistakes and still lose. But we can, however, change how we respond to those things. And part of making that change is to reckon with those outcomes honestly.
If someone you are interested in doesn’t text you back, it sucks. You’ll be sad for a little while. But you will recover – especially if you don’t treat it like the End of The World – and very little will have actually changed for you. The same with having been ghosted; you’ve been ghosted before, and you know that while it hurts a little, that pain fades quickly and very little has changed. It only becomes unbearable when you make it out to be more than it actually is… such as a referendum on how you’re supposedly unloveable.
That’s why you get so needy and pushy and ask for so much reassurance; you’re asking for someone to reaffirm that you’re capable of being loved. You’re asking them to make the uncomfortable feeling go away – to help regulate your feelings for you – and this pushes people away. People have enough on their plate dealing with their own lives; they don’t have time or the bandwidth to handle the problems of a relative stranger. And to be frank, you’re still a stranger to them, and these requests for reassurance are telling them that this behavior is going to continue if they get into a relationship with you.
You, on the other hand, are investing far too much importance and significance on someone that you don’t know and giving them far more control over your mood and feelings. It’s far, far too soon for them to be such a monumental figure in your life, and the only reason that they are is that you see them as your next-to-last chance. That’s part of the fear – that each unanswered text or date that doesn’t happen is a step closer to dying alone and unloved. It’s not… but that’s what Anxiety Brain is telling you.
This is why you have to learn to start recognizing your anxiety for what it is and start engaging with your fears instead of trying to avoid them. Part of this is to actually ask yourself “OK, let’s say she’s not going to text me back. What will I do instead?”. Not “what did I do wrong”, not “what does this mean”, but “what am I going to do?” You’re taking the uncertainty away and choosing to address the actual situation… a situation which, as I said, doesn’t actually change things for you.
If you can start controlling your anxiety and managing your fears, you’re going to need less reassurance and thus not be so quick to put such pressure on your dates. You won’t feel the need to text excessively and overwhelm them, which increases the odds that you’re going to have more successful dates.
Now a lot of this is easy to talk about but harder to accomplish. You mention that your OCD is treatment-resistant and that you’ve tried therapy. I wish you’d mentioned which therapies you’ve tried, because if you haven’t, I’d recommend Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. CBT is known to be particularly effective for managing anxiety and OCD, in part because it teaches you how to recognize your triggers, how to relate to your thoughts and how to keep them from spiraling out of control. It’s very similar to Stoicism in that it asks you to really think about your thoughts and how to change how you react to problems – including asking yourself “what if it’s not so bad?”
Work on getting those feelings under control. You don’t need to be perfectly calm at all times or utterly fearless; you just have to know how to soothe yourself, reassure yourself and not let those problems turn into unending spirals. Do that, and your social life will improve massively.
Good luck.
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