DEAR DR. NERDLOVE: I (M28) am writing because I have a lot of trouble about moving on from my last (and only) relationship with a girl I’ll call Leila (F28). We were together for about five years, and after that we got back together for a few months. We have a child together.
I have always been the very quiet, recluse kid at school. Not many friends, but I didn’t care as I spent all my free time playing video games. In college, I did my best to get out of my shell, and I mostly succeeded: I got into partying, meeting people, and I met a lot of people whom I’m still friends with today.
Now, I was not really getting there with romantic and sexual relationships. While I did get some interest from other women from time to time, I never found them to my liking. Of course, I never approached girls I thought were cute.
It was the same when I met Leila: she was interested in me, but I wasn’t at first. But see, I knew she was attractive, just not my particular flavor. She made heads turn at the bar. She was very experienced sexually. And she was hitting on me really hard. She quickly grew on me and we quickly started hooking up. She was my first sexual partner (not counting a hookup I once had with a girl I didn’t want).
Now you can’t imagine what effect this had on my ego. The “unattractive loser” was having sex with a hot girl, and everyone knew it. I felt like a million bucks, and that had never happened to me before. Actually, the well-being of my ego entirely depended on the fact that Leila wanted to hook up with ME specifically — and more than that even: she was in love with me. I liked her a lot but I can’t say I was “in love”.
I was fine with being sexfriends, and I told her so, but eventually I gave in and we started “dating”, and we quickly moved in together. We got on very well, had lots of shared interests, we had good sex. Her libido was lower than mine, which frustrated me a bit but it was still okay.
Through the years, things dwindled. She made a lot of effort to maintain the relationship, and did a lot for me. But her libido lowered a lot. I was increasingly distant and frustrated with her. I didn’t feel attached to her at all anymore. I wanted to go out there and get my own relationships, go see “hot girls” and hook up with them, meet a girl I “really love” to date her. So I ended things one year ago and moved out.
Leila was devastated, but I was finally free. Free to pursue whatever I wanted in terms of relationships. I was fine being alone, and was not looking for another relationship for the moment. Only, what I didn’t know is that my whole sense of self-worth still rested on Leila’s love for me, so when I learned that she had hooked up with multiple people since we split (and I — zero), I literally felt my soul leaving my body.
Enter anxiety and depression. I had never felt so bad in my life. If she forgot me, I thought, I would have nothing for me anymore. I was ferociously jealous that she could get anyone she wanted, because she was that good, and I… just couldn’t. I was jealous of her partners too – obviously. And she really did almost everything I could have ever hoped to do or discover in my sexual life during our breakup, including things she didn’t do with me, which killed me a little more.
Yet, I tried the apps. I ended up getting some dates (no sex), multiple dates with the same girls even, including one I met during a night out. This was all a first for me and I’m still surprised I pulled it off. But really, I was only thinking about Leila. I felt like these girls I met just didn’t measure up to her. So when Leila and I met later that year, and she told me she still loved me, we ended up having sex and got back together shortly after. And the old feelings came back: I was frustrated, distant, dismissive of her needs because I had seen no progress whatsoever in my own relationship goals during the breakup. We split up again.
Now, she found someone else very quickly, again. I fear that she found a more serious prospect than the previous people she saw. I tell myself every day that I could get her back, and end the constant anxiety, loneliness and frustration. It’s just a phone call away. Only, I don’t know how much time is left before she won’t take me back. And I’m scared to see this day come.
Of course, this is not healthy. I believe I need to put an end to this relationship, for good, but we cannot go no-contact because of our child. We have both sent messages that we shouldn’t have, still recently.
Doc, how the hell am I supposed to build my self-worth on my own? How do I know I’m not letting the best girl I’ll ever meet go, while she would spend the rest of her life with me?
What if I’m only leaving her for the frustration of not having had any other sexual experiences, only to understand after a few years that our life together was actually nice enough and our problems were all (well, mostly) in my head? I do fear I am making a huge mistake here.
Sorry for the long one, and thanks a lot for reading. Love your blog, your energy and your outlook: you’re one of the good ones. Keep up the good work.
Hollow Night
DEAR HOLLOW NIGHT: This is a s--tty situation to be in and you have my sympathy. Which is why I hate to say this HN, because it’s going to sound like I’m giving you s--t when I’m not, but… this is precisely why I talk about external vs. internal validation and why it’s important to love yourself. It’s also why confidence and self-esteem isn’t inherent to achievements or other people – because that means your sense of self and self-worth is something that can be taken away from you.
Without the foundation of feeling your own value, believing in your own worth, independent of who you’re seeing or sleeping with… well, you end up with situations like this. And it absolutely sucks. It hurts, and it makes it hard to move forward, simply because you’re more focused on what someone else is doing rather than working on your own healing and making your own closure.
This is something that a lot of guys go through, especially guys who define themselves as hopeless or losers or otherwise have made being “bad with girls” part of their identity and self-concept. They find the “perfect” person, someone who they can point to and say “Look, she finds me hot! She’s someone other people want, now she’s with me! Look what that says about me!” And for a brief period, it feels like you’re the center of the universe. You’ve gone from being the guy that folks pitied, if they didn’t sneer at you, to being the guy that everyone envies. You go outside and it feels like you’re starring in a musical full of song and dance numbers about how great you are while God smiles down directly on you.
And then your “perfect” partner turns out to be human, the same as everyone else. The little imperfections and flaws that everyone has become more prominent in your view, the little annoyances that you could overlook early on stop being so little. And, just as importantly… well, you start thinking that “ok, well, maybe I could do a little better than this. Maybe I could find someone who’s even better, someone who can make me feel like I did when we first started, but without the things that are bugging me.”
Maybe you end things, maybe the relationship has reached the point where she does; either way, you are now single – like you wanted to be! The world is your oyster! You’re ready to move on to the next level with the next, even better partner…
Except you don’t. You struggle. You have a hard time meeting people, especially folks who are on the same theoretical “level” as your ex. The confidence you had has vanished, and all those obstacles and challenges you thought had been erased by being with her never actually went away, and you’re exactly where you were before.
Meanwhile, she’s not had the same problem. She’s seeing other people, while Friday night is the loneliest night for you. And you can’t help but feel like maybe the answer is to get her back, so you can feel the way you did before.
Now, to be clear: being frustrated about a mismatched libido is understandable, especially if sex and sexual intimacy is a priority for you in a relationship. Sexual compatibility is vitally important for a relationship’s long-term success. But it also sounds like there wasn’t as much there besides the sex. You say it yourself: you weren’t dating her because you loved her, you were moving from being f--kbuddies to dating because she wanted something more serious and you “gave in”. Which was, honestly, a mistake. An understandable one, but a mistake none the less. Because when the sex went from being new and novel to not just what you were accustomed to, but not as frequent or regular as at the start, there was less in the relationship to help bridge the gap.
So, you basically ended up doubly screwed. You were in a relationship that didn’t meet your needs, with someone who you liked, but didn’t have that vital connection to, and you didn’t have the foundation of self-worth and value and esteem that would make it easier to move on, give yourself closure, take what you learned and apply it to a new relationship. You had the illusion of confidence, not the reality of it, and it vanished because it was based entirely on someone else.
So, I’m going to say this as gently as I can: this happened because at the end of the day, this relationship was all about you and how being with her meant that you were special. It’s a little like the scene in 500 Days of Summer, where Summer is saying something significant and vulnerable to Tom, something that she has never said to anyone else, and Tom misses it entirely. He knows she’s talking, but he’s not paying attention; he’s thinking about what her opening up to him this way says about him.
And, to be frank, it’s still happening. You haven’t moved on because you haven’t learned the lesson here. Even your despair at how many guys she’s been with in comparison to your none is due to having not fully understood why this relationship hasn’t and won’t work. I hate to tell you this but if you get back with her again, you’re going to have the same frustrations, feel the same lack of affection and care and you’re going to break up a third time, because nothing has changed. You haven’t learned the lesson you need to learn, so you’re stuck in the same patterns, which will just repeat itself again. And then, all that’s going to happen is that you will have broken the heart of someone who seems to genuinely care for you three separate times.
You miss Leila because of what she represents, not because of her. You miss how she made you feel about yourself. You miss being the guy that could get someone this hot, this sexual, someone who made you the envy of others. But that’s all about you, using her as the base for your sense of self-worth and confidence.
You have to let go of that and learn to find it in yourself. This is why confidence is built by believing in your own ability to improve and grow and accomplish, not by “success” and not by who you’re with. It’s built around knowing that you may not succeed this time, but failure isn’t going to stop you, either. And it’s built around knowing that, even when nobody else believes in you, your faith in yourself is strong.
This is why I say that loving yourself is so important. Why your sense of self-worth has to be inherent to you, not reliant on external validation. Otherwise, you end up in situations just like this, feeling lost and confused and often causing pain in others without meaning to or even understanding why or how you’re doing so.
Leila isn’t the best woman you will ever meet, HN. She’s the one that made you feel a particular way. That relationship was mostly about you and it still is. You have only ever felt this need for her after you leave her, not while you’re with her. It’s about filling the vacuum in your sense of self that you notice when she’s gone. And until you do fill it for yourself, you’re going to have the same problems – chasing after someone you don’t actually want for her own sake, while not being able to move on and meet someone who you might actually care about and build a relationship with.
I know this sounds harsh, but this is the way forward for you. You have to recon with the truth of your connection to her, even though it makes you look bad and makes you feel bad about yourself. It’s the lesson you have been needing to learn before now, but made all the more bitter because this is the second go-round, second verse same as the first, a little bit louder and a whole lot worse.
You’re going to have to build your confidence and self-worth without her, find the things that make you feel good about yourself by yourself. You’re going to have to teach yourself to do the things that not only feed your soul but nourish your sense of self, instead of relying on someone else that you can point to and say “see? SEE? THIS PROVES I’M COOL!”
And when you finally do, you’ll be able to put your previous relationship with Leila behind you and move on to the one you’ll need to have going forward. Which, I hate to say it, won’t be and shouldn’t be as a couple. Co-parents, yes, but not partners. You didn’t have that connection when you first started this, and at this point, I think you’ve salted that ground far too thoroughly.
Find yourself, learn to recognize your inherent value and worth that is entirely because you are you, and then find someone who you can connect with as a partner, not as an accessory. It’s going to sting while you do it, but that’s the pain of growth put off for too long.
Good luck.
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