DEAR DR. NERDLOVE: I went to a concert with a friend of mine, they invited me at the last minute. It was Poppy, an up-and-coming metal singer. My friend (a femme non-binary person) is a bit of a goth and they enjoy that scene while I am somewhat uninitiated.
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We really had a great time. We talked a lot about life and our interests and the whole experience just flowed nicely. This was the first time I ever felt truly at peace being myself around someone. Normally I feel the need to kind of put on an act when I’m trying to connect with a woman but for the first time, I didn’t feel like I had to. At one point I turned to them and hit them with the ol’ “I really want to kiss you right now.” They said they didn’t want to complicate our relationship and jokingly mentioned they were a “walking basket of red flags” and that they have too many mental issues going on to date. I am perfectly ok with this and in these situations I’d rather air on the side of respecting boundaries.
But the feeling is clearly mutual. We are very physically comfortable with each other; we don’t mind being in each other’s space and we still flirt and tease one another.
I guess I’m asking if I did the right thing. Should I have used the whole “she wants to jump in the pool, you just have to ease her into it” routine you have mentioned in the past? Or did I do the right thing by not pushing it?
Too Much Or Not Enough
DEAR TOO MUCH OR NOT ENOUGH: This one’s easy, TMNE: you did the right thing by not pushing it. You made the offer, she said “I appreciate it, but no, thank you.” That’s the end of the discussion.
Here’s the thing about flirting: it’s about having fun with a person while showing you’re attracted to them. But part of being good at flirting is recognizing where someone’s limits are. The metaphor I come back to often – how do you get someone to join you in the pool on a hot day – is about encouraging someone to do something they’re at least thinking about doing. That’s why, in that metaphor, I talk about “how do you encourage them to get in”; going over and metaphorically picking them up and tossing them in as they writhe and protest wasn’t one of the options.
Now, another part of flirting is that you’re checking for mutual interest. How someone responds gives you an idea of whether they’re feeling it or not, whether it’s a case of “I like the idea but not yet”, if they’re interested in flirting for funsies but without intent, or maybe they’re just not into the idea at all. This is why I talk about flirting in stages; you do some light flirting and see how they respond. If they respond by flirting back, you can escalate the flirting a little – I like the guide of “meet their energy + 10%” if you’re unsure.
If they don’t flirt back or you feel like the response wasn’t clear, you can try again at the same general level; if the response is still unclear or “no”, they’re not interested. If you escalate things a little but they don’t flirt back at that level, that’s likely your upper limit for now. That is to say: they like you and are enjoying flirting with you, but this is the level to which they want to take things; give them time to decide if and when they’re ready for more.
But if someone gives a “no, that’s not what I’m interested in” or “I’m not up for this”, then that’s that.
Your friend made it clear that they’re either not interested in something physical with you, or they know themselves enough to know they’re not in a place where that would be a good idea. That’s their final word on the topic for now. As it stands, you have to trust their judgement and to trust them to know whether this is something they want to or are able to pursue.��You put the option out there. If they change their mind, hey, they know you’re interested. Respecting that, and keeping things to the level where you’re both comfortable and having fun is the best thing you can do. It won’t ensure that when and if their circumstances change that they’ll want to pursue something with you… but trying to pressure them into changing their mind will almost certainly ensure that they won’t.
Good luck.
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