DEAR DR. NERDLOVE: I’m a teenage adult, former virgin, in his first actual relationship with a woman I love deeply. One big difference between us is our vastly different sexual past. Before her, I was a virgin who hadn’t actually been in a relationship. She, however, has let’s say around 12 previous sexual partners and 4 romantic partners (male and female). I knew that she had sexual experience before I had begun dating her, and it didn’t bug me. She was even talking to her previous ex when we started talking. I never liked the idea of my partner talking to exes, but who was I to ask her to stop talking to a guy she was friends with before me?
Then about a month or two in, something happened. One of her past hookups had started hanging around her again. As someone who thought it wouldn’t bug me, I was surprised to see this jealousy just suddenly flare up in me. Suddenly I had all of these questions invading my mind and holding onto it with a death grip. Being freshly 18, and an inexperienced lover, I lashed out with my jealousy. I felt threatened by this person I perceived as better/cooler than me and directed it at her. Since then, this person has left our lives for the most part (found out they’re not a good person at ALL. Whole other story) but since then, this jealousy has just been jumping from person to person (only the men honestly. Maybe this is some internalized s--t, but I’m only ever threatened by the men in her past)
I asked more and more questions, learning about more and more of these people. I found out that she’s slept with her close guy friends in the past. Guy friends who she might still hang out with or talk to. Or if they haven’t slept together, the guy had feelings for her at one point. Even coworkers who she’s had small flirting flings with bug me knowing that she works with these guys. Every time she hangs out with or mentions these guys as her friends, my brain just force-feeds me images of her being with that guy sexually, or of them flirting. Even if it’s years in the past! I think the biggest trigger of these feelings is the fact that these people are still in her life. If she had guy friends that she didn’t have that history with, I wouldn’t care. If her ex-hookups, relationships, or flings weren’t people she talked to often it wouldn’t bug me to think about it as much. I feel like every time I hear about a guy friend in her life or run into someone she knows in public I can only think “has she been with this guy before?”
Through it all, she’s been completely honest with me about her history every time I’ve asked, even if it just made me feel worse. I have literally no reason not to trust her. I don’t think she’d cheat on me. I don’t want to control her. I don’t want to say who she can or can’t hang out with. I know all of these experiences has made her the beautiful woman she is today. If I could, I’d just snap my fingers and not feel these feelings anymore.
Now, we’re a year in and my jealousy STILL gets the better of me. There’s been times where I’ve made her cry when I’ve told her how I’m feeling. She’ll say things like “I wish you treated me like a human being”, and it just f--king destroys me. I’m so insecure that I’m going to f--k up this amazing thing I have going with this amazing girl. This is literally the one issue we have. The one thing we fight on. I don’t want to let something as stupid as my insecurity to ruin us.
I don’t even know if I’m looking for advice or just a place to vent. I feel like I have something mentally wrong with me to be feeling this intense jealousy and hurt over these things.
How do I fix this?
Failing Student of History
DEAR FAILING STUDENT OF HISTORY: Every once in a while, I get a letter that leaves me pinching the bridge of my nose and reminding myself that the writer is very young before I respond.
OK before we start, I’m going to be honest: You don’t mention your girlfriend’s age, but I’m going to go ahead and assume that she’s around your age. If that’s the case, then I’m wondering just how many of these “sex partners” involved actual penetration and not just, y’know, extensive fooling around. 12 partners by the age of 18 is a lot in a relatively short amount of time, and that makes me suspect that these numbers are squishier than the letter would imply. Leaving aside issues of defining “sex” beyond PIV, this would hardly be the first time that encounters got rounded up to “sex”, especially in the head of the person who’s having a… let’s call it a “less than optimal” response to it all.
But the thing is: I don’t care. Much like when people detail the acts their partners did before them, the number is a distraction at best, at worst, it’s someone trying to make the other person look bad and make their jealousy seem justified or reasonable. I’m not all that interested in speculating on the hows and whys of it all because it’s not relevant. Even if this is 100% accurate and she has, indeed, had 12 partners before you, the numbers don’t matter. It doesn’t matter if she had 24 partners; this is entirely a you problem that you’re insisting on making a her problem, FSH.
This is, quite literally, all in your head – both the problem and the source of the problem. And the fact of the matter is that you’re only making things worse, in no small part because you’re not actually addressing the issue here. Until you do, nothing is going to improve; it’s only going to get worse, and this is going to follow you from relationship to relationship.
Here’s the thing: this is not about the fact guys she’s hooked up with are still in her life, nor would it be easier if her only guy friends were ones she never hooked up with or ever had an ounce of attraction to. Hell, even if she her sexual history was entirely confined to her 4 romantic partners and never proceeded past some PG-13 action, you’d still be having these issues. Because it’s not about her exes, it’s about how you feel about yourself.
The reason why you feel threatened by these guys is that you don’t feel like you have any inherent worth or value that your girlfriend would be attracted to. If it were just about her having slept with them and they’re still being around, you’d be far less worried about the ones who she just flirted with, or the ones who’re completely platonic but supposedly have/had feelings or her. You’re threatened by her exes, not because they’re her exes, but because you feel like they have qualities you don’t and that your girlfriend is going to be drawn back to them like a moth to a flame.
At the end of the day, you’re worried that someone’s gonna take your stuff because you’re just not good enough.
Part of this is, quite frankly, toxic and sex-negative bulls--t about male and female sexuality. The fact that she’s had multiple sex partners before you hits your insecurity buttons because there’s a whole lot of crap floating in your head about how her having sex with you less special. She chose you, sure, but she chose all those other guys too, so now you’re a face in the crowd.
Now, instead of being The Chosen, you’re dealing with the belief that without some other quality to make you stand out from the crowd, you’re just the Johnny-Come-Lately and not nearly as cool, handsome, desirable or whatever random quality your jerkbrain will latch onto. And because you don’t believe you’re special or that she could choose you simply because you’re you and she wants you for that, these other guys are a threat. If she wakes up one day and decides she’s over you or is just upset because you two had yet another fight, she has her choice of suitors waiting in the wings to pick back up where they left off. It’s why random guys in her life are so threatening to you and you wonder whether she’s banged them too: because each previous sex-partner is one more person who underscores how not special you are.
This is why things haven’t gotten better in the year since you two started dating. You’ve never addressed the inner issue of how you feel about yourself. And to make it worse, you’re taking this internal problem – your worry that these guys are going to take what you have because you don’t measure up – and you’re lashing out at her, as though she were somehow the cause.
Here is a truth: sex doesn’t make you special or better or whatever. As I’ve said many, many times before: women aren’t Mjolnir. Women, like men, don’t only sleep with someone because they are The Worthy. Women, like men, will f--k people for a whole host of reasons, many of which have nothing to do with the person they end up sleeping with. Nor, for that matter, do they date people or become attracted to them in comparison to others in their lives. People don’t choose their partners based on lines on a graph and need to make sure the line only goes up. Someone who dates you isn’t dating you because you had more points on a spreadsheet than the other person, they’re dating you because they want to date you, specifically. Maybe you’re better than previous exes in some way. Maybe you’re not better than those exes in some way. None of that matters because those exes are exes for a reason, just like you are their partner for a reason.
But if you can’t believe in your own value, in your own worth and recognize that you’re a prize, none of that is going to matter, because you’re never going to relax. You’re always going to be looking for the shoe to drop because you will never be able to trust that they’re with you because they want to be with you.
And, quite frankly, I’m kind of astounded that she’s still with you based on how you’re treating her. There’re only so many times someone be called a liar every time they say “I love you” before they give up.
The fact of the matter is that you’re being an incredible asshole about this, and it’s entirely down to your own feeling about yourself. Yeah, I know imagining her with other people f--ks with you. But you’re imagining it because you think you aren’t good enough, and this is your brain’s way of confirming this… in the worst and most painful way possible.
Until you address that inner lack and find your internal validation, you’re going to be having this problem regardless of who you date. It’s going to leak out, even if you’re dating someone who was a literal Vestal Virgin until the day you met; your jerkbrain will find reasons to feel threatened by the other men in her life simply because you can’t believe that someone would want you for your own sake.
If you want to save your relationship with your girlfriend – or any future relationships you may have – then you need to start with your relationship with yourself.
Actually, I take that back. You need to start by deeply and sincerely apologizing to your girlfriend for the way you’re acting. Then you need to start working on your relationship to yourself. And to be clear: this doesn’t mean that you need to start cultivating new hobbies or earn more money or get six-pack abs. It means that you need to start learning to believe that you’re great and desirable – even if other people don’t see or agree with it. Because it’s not about other people’s beliefs or opinions, it’s about yours. Without that core sense of self-worth, it won’t matter how much external validation you get. You’ll just be tossing it down a whole that’ll never be filled.
You’re going to have to fill that hole yourself. And hopefully you’ll do it before you hurt your girlfriend any further.
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