DEAR DR. NERDLOVE: I’m a guy in my mid-20s, and every so often I’ll get told something that boils down to, I come off as effeminate. Someone once told me (he thought he was being helpful…) to “dress more like a man.” I’ve been told certain photos of me make me look “soft” or “feminine.” Occasionally someone will assume I’m queer. I’d say most of the time it’s not malicious, but it does feel like a recurring theme. For one thing, I don’t entirely understand why I get these comments: I think my dress tends to be fairly neutral/masculine, with the occasional bright colors (big tie-dye guy) or floral pattern. I like wearing rings and a necklace or two, but not makeup or piercings. I know some things I can’t control – I have a higher-pitched voice than the average man, and maybe being on the short side doesn’t help. Maybe I have certain “feminine” mannerisms, I don’t know. If I’m out and about, I’ll carry my things in a small tote bag for convenience. At least a majority of my friends happen to be women, and I work in a female-dominated industry. Some of my interests include activities that attract more women than men, like yoga, reading, and environmental issues (why these things are considered feminine-coded, I don’t know, but that’s a whole other chat). My music taste includes artists who don’t have a big cishet-male fanbase. Not sure how relevant all this is, just trying to paint as much of a picture as I can.
Now, I don’t care about presenting as stereotypically masculine, nor do I think men have to, nor do I care what people think of how I carry myself… but I do care to the extent that women might discount me as a possible romantic interest based on a first impression. I will say, it isn’t friends who say anything like this to me – sometimes it’s a friend of a friend, or someone at a party, or every now and then just a stranger. I’d say it’s also more often than not a guy saying it when I get a comment along these lines, so grain of salt, I guess. But it does make me wonder, and feel a little anxious, about what women might think about me based on one meeting or conversation at a party or a group event. Or at a speed dating event or on an app, where first impressions are everything. Or on a first date, where someone might think after an hour, he seems nice, but I don’t see it. To be clear, I’m not talking about trying to present in that obnoxious, dudebro, Andrew Tate, hypermasculine sort of way (I DEFINITELY don’t want to), or to imply that that’s what women are looking for (I know it’s not). I guess I’m more talking about giving off an impression that someone wouldn’t inherently think is “bad” or “wrong” but also doesn’t square with their mental image of a date or a partner. Again, what I’m trying to say isn’t “I don’t want to come off as effeminate” – more just, “I don’t want to be written off,” I suppose.
I don’t know, am I just being insecure? Are things like the apps or dating events maybe not the right approach for me? Are there any sort of “you don’t have to change your whole personality, but maybe try this” tips that might help me?
Thank you so much,
Not James Dean
DEAR NOT JAMES DEAN: Welcome to the wild world of gender, where the rules are made up and the points don’t mean anything.
No, seriously; gender is a construct, and what’s considered to be “masculine” and “feminine” change on an almost weekly basis. Today’s “manly” look is tomorrow’s “hyper-femme” and vice-versa. Damn near everything we consider to be masculine or feminine coded has flipped at one point or another.
High heels, short-shorts, leggings or stockings? Those were masculine styles of dress – the better to show off the ‘well turned calves’ of certain members of French and British royalty. Powder, wigs, lipstick, rouge? All the rage for the stylish man in Louis XIV’s court who were following the lead of their king. Blue for boys and pink for girls? Used to be the exact opposite; pink was considered the more “manly” color because it was ‘dusky red’ and was too “exciting” for girls, while blue was the color of skies and was more serene and calming. This flipped in the 1940s, because clothing manufacturers decided it was the case.
Bright colors, floral prints, extravagant brocades and embroidering were, likewise, primarily male looks. It took Beau Brummell deciding to flaunt fashion and choose long pants, solid colors and an undecorated frock coat – and the association of French fashion with the guillotine – to change what the fashion-forward man-about-town would wear.
Purses, totes, carry-alls, slings… these have all been male-coded, female-coded and unisex at one point or another. Hell, even things like “coding” and “computer programming” were considered secretarial work and the province of women… right up until men decided it was important and thus “male”.
Even general concepts like “environmentalism” and “reading” have flipped around from being considered “male” and “female” pursuits, which really should tell you just how much of gender is just a bunch of folks throwing darts at a wall and shaking a Magic 8-Ball.
What does this mean for you? Well, mostly it means you’re getting lost in your own head in it all. I’m entirely unsurprised that the people who are commenting on your supposedly “femme-y” presentation are men; one of the most important, unwritten rules of “masculinity” is that men are supposed to police the masculinity of others. It’s part of how we establish our place in the pecking order – you find someone who’s not conforming and force them into compliance. Sometimes it’s via social pressure, sometimes through outright threats and violence… hell, there have been laws in our lifetimes where wearing the “wrong” clothes could get you thrown in jail and cops were authorized to “correct” you based on little more than vibes. After all, if people don’t conform to these rigid and arbitrary rules of gender presentation, then the whole edifice might come tumbling down and then where would we be?
I mean, s--t, look at how much people lose their goddamn minds whenever Billy Porter or Harry Stiles or anyone else wears a dress. You’d think that they’d threatened to pour Joker venom into the city aquifer from the way people get all up in their feelings about it.
My general feeling is that honestly, unless your skin tone and hair doesn’t work with the colors you’re rocking (shoutout to us gingers who can’t wear pink because it looks AWFUL on us), I couldn’t give a six-legged rat’s ass. You like wearing loose, blousy shirts? Awesome, it’s gonna be a lot more comfortable as the climate goes to s--t. Learn how clothes are supposed to fit, make sure everything’s clean, get the colors that look good on you and rock the f--k on. Life is too goddamn short to give that much of a s--t about what other people are wearing, no matter what the latest discourse says.
(Seriously, why the f--k does anyone get upset that Gen-Z thinks ankle socks are stupid? Nazis are on the march again and we’re supposed to argue about calf-length vs. no-shows? Christ on a goddamn cracker people, get some perspective.)
But what about what women think? Well… what about it? Here’s the thing that I think you’re missing: if a woman is going to think that your style is just too girly or not “manly” enough for her, then that’s just someone who isn’t right for you. I don’t mean that as an insult to them, just that if you don’t conform to their idea of a date or mate, then that’s not inherently a bad thing. If anything, it saves you both a lot of time. I promise, clothing is the start; there will be other areas where you just mesh correctly.
And you know, that’s fine. People are allowed to have preferences. Some people like more conventional gender presentations, others love it when people throw convention to the wind. Some people want Metallica, some people want Prince and some want David Bowie. Some people want Donna Reed and others want Grace Jones or the flannel-clad, axe-toting lumberjack of their dreams.
And trust me: there’re women out there who adore soft-boys and femme-y guys. There’re a whole host of affectionate terms for men who aren’t conventionally masculine; just check AO3.
Here’s what I think is important: do you look good? Do you feel good when rocking your style? Does it make you feel like a sexy badass? Are you happy with your habits, hobbies and musical tastes? Well there you go; I don’t see any real reason to change. Because here’s the thing: we wear our identities on our sleeves – quite literally, in many cases. How we present ourselves is an outward expression of who we are. It’s an easy shorthand for who we are as people, and while some folks may write us off, it also makes it easier for the right people to find us. So rather than worrying about how many women will think you’re not what she’s looking for, consider that what you want is someone who looks at you and says “oooh, hello salty goodness.”
Will you turn off more people than you turn on? Possibly, but that’s not a bad thing. Quantity doesn’t have a quality all of its own. If anything, you end up wasting a lot of time on people who just aren’t right for you. There’s a reason why I quote that old saw about not being everyone’s cup of tea, but aiming to be a few people’s shot of whiskey. You don’t want a lot of people who only kinda like you, you want a few people who crave what you have to offer. If your style, your manner and your interests are all authentic to who you are, then you want people who are going to vibe with that.
Sure, there’re some things you could do differently. You’re almost certainly using your “head” voice rather than your “chest” voice, with your voice resonating more through your nasal passages than your chest. This tends to make your voice a bit higher and more nasal; speaking more with your chest voice tends to be deeper and sounds more assertive and confident. It also tends to be more comfortable and causes less vocal strain, because your vocal chords are being supported by your diaphragm and chest muscles instead of your throat.
You might also pay more attention to the way you move; short, quick movements tend to read less confident or assured than slower, more graceful ones. A little attention there might cut down on the number of comments you get and make you feel a bit more confident and masculine.
But overall? I think you’re thinking too much about the people who are a poor match for you and not enough about the ones who are good matches. Instead of worrying about the people who don’t vibe with your style and personality, look for the ones who dig it. You’ll be much happier overall.
Good luck.
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