DEAR DR. NERDLOVE: I’ve read some of your previous blogs and can relate to the men who say that they have a lot going for them and are considered by their friends and family to be “attractive”, both in terms of their physical appearance and their personality. I don’t want to go into the details too much, but I myself would like to believe that I’m a good man with positive attributes, and I too have experienced A LOT of positive feedback from others to the point where they are genuinely shocked that I am single. However, my reality is that despite my so-called strengths, I’ve not had anything to show for it in terms of romance. So, I’m trying to answer a question, which is…what am I doing that is so off-putting to women in my age range?
Case in point – I go to a lot of local events with live music, as well as do salsa classes. These are passions of mine, and I’m a good dancer. It just so happens that, naturally, these events happen to draw in women. I’ve befriended some of these women, but almost all of them have partners and / or are too young / too old for me to be dating. That’s okay! I like having women as friends!
Yet, whereas these female friends of mine think highly of me, trust me completely, and believe that I have every girl crushing on me, on the other side of the coin is the reactions (or lack thereof) that I get from women that, in theory, would be more suitable as a love interest.
For example, I went to a social event about two months, and as part of the class we were required to rotate with different partners. I observed that, with the older crowd, I could have a quick conversation and a good laugh with them, and you could tell they enjoyed doing the class with me because they would later come up and ask for a dance. The women in their twenties or early thirties? A total lack of eye contact, barely saying a word, some of them out-right blanking me when I did try to talk to them, and one who actually skipped ahead to dance with another lead. I know it’s specifically a “me” problem, because I then go on to observe them happily dancing with and chatting to other men.
This has been consistent throughout my life – at college, at university, and now as an adult, the women belonging to the demographic most suited for me to date are the ones that either treat me like a ghost, or look as if they would rather be doing anything else other than talking to me. The solution isn’t to “ask them out anyway”, because they’ve not given the slightest hint they are remotely interested.
I literally haven’t dated for about a decade because of this.
Help me out here?
Split Decisions
DEAR SPLIT DECISIONS: Once again, this is one of those questions where I would have to be a documentarian (or very weird stalker) to be able to tell you what, specifically, you’re doing wrong. If indeed there is anything wrong; there very well may not be. In fact, what you’re seeing may not be what you think you’re seeing.
Something that I can’t emphasize enough is that none of us are objective observers of reality. All of us like to think that we’re keen-eyed and perceptive, able to read the room like a T-800 sizing up a situation or Neo looking past the surface and seeing the Matrix. But we’re not. What we see and, importantly, how we interpret it, is highly selective and subjective. Our eyes aren’t cameras, taking in everything around us, nor do our brains perceive things exactly as they appear. All of our senses – sight, sound, taste, touch, hell even things we don’t think of as senses like balance and proprioception are all subject to our brains deciding what is or isn’t actually there.
In fact, if you think about it, you’ve almost certainly had moments where your perception of the world around you has been distorted by how your brain processed those signals. Sleep paralysis is famous for causing auditory and visual hallucinations; LSD, MDMA and THC are well known for altering sensory perception; hell, even just a classic carnival fun-house trick of a spinning tunnel around a bridge or walkway can completely throw off your balance despite the fact that nothing is actually moving. And to be sure, it’s easy to brush those off. You hallucinate during sleep paralysis because your brain is still trying to come out of REM sleep. Chemicals affect how your brain functions and optical illusions are all well-known phenomena. Surely that doesn’t have anything to do with us perceiving reality in the raw, right?
Well, yes, it does. And don’t call me Shirley.
Your brain can cause you to perceive things incorrectly just because you expect something else. The McGurk Effect is one of the most famous examples of this – when the audio recording of a sound is paired with a video recording of a different sound, we “hear” a completely different third sound. The sound and the video both create an expectation, and our brains resolve that expectation by combining them in an entirely different way. It is literally our expectations – what we are primed and ready to perceive – that change what we “hear” when our brains process those signals.
Now, I bring this up not to say that you’re just hallucinating all of those rejections, but to drive home that just because you’re perceiving or experiencing something, that doesn’t mean that you’re necessarily perceiving it accurately. It’s to drive home that all of us – every human out there – is an imperfect and highly biased observer, and those biases play into what we see in the world around us. Your expectations are a filter and color how you interpret what you perceive – mechanically yes, but also what we think it all means. If we have some assumptions about how people feel about us, or even how we feel about ourselves, those assumptions will play out in what we experience. Not because that’s what’s actually happening, but because that’s how we’re interpreting that information based on what we expect. If you think that people don’t like you and are likely to reject you, you’re going to experience rejection far more often because that’s how you’re going to interpret those moments.
It’s the difference between when your best friend says he can’t hang out because he’s busy next week and when a stranger at the club turns down a date because she’s busy next week. In the former, you know your best friend and you know he’s not rejecting you, he’s legitimately busy. In the latter… well, maybe they’re rejecting you, maybe they honestly have a scheduling conflict but would like to see you. If you are going in assuming that people don’t find you attractive or are going to reject you, then you’re going to interpret what that hottie at the club says as rejection and respond accordingly. If you were to say “oh no worries, what does your weekend look like after that?” you might actually get that date. But if you assume that you’re pre-rejected, you’ll never get that far; you’ll just assume that it’s a “no” because what else could it be… even if she were using the same tone of voice and words as your best friend would.
And this is before we get to the fact that you’re also not perceiving everything around you. Not in the mechanical sense (though that is also true), but in that there is simply context and information that you’re not privy to. There are rooms that you’re just not in, conversations you’ve not overheard and relationships you don’t know exist. You don’t know, for example, that these women at salsa class don’t have pre-existing relationships with the guys they’re dancing with or what’s happening that they decide to move on to dance with someone else. You’re seeing a small fragment of the available information and making a call based primarily on what you think the obvious or most likely answer is.
You also don’t know the conversations that other folks at those classes – the ones who think you’re hot stuff and think everyone is crushing on you – are having. It’s entirely possible that part of why they think that there’re more people who dig you than you realize is because of what they’re seeing and conversations they’re having.
But just as importantly: their perceptions are affected by their expectations too. And they know and like you, so of course they’re going to see things in a more positive light.
Now at this point, I’m sure you’re wondering just where the f--k I’m going with all of this. “Sure Doc, that’s all fascinating in a ‘The edible kicked in and I fell down a wiki-hole for six hours’ kind of way but Saturday night is still the loneliest night of the week and this isn’t fixing that.” Well, hang on a little bit longer, I’m gonna bring this in for a landing in a second, I promise.
You see, the reason why I bring all of this up is that perception is malleable and based on expectations. What we expect to see is what we’re going to see. But not only does this mean that you can be wrong about what you’re seeing, this also means that we can shape what people expect to see. In fact, we do this all the time, consciously and unconsciously, on a daily basis.
Why do we get dressed up a particular way for a job interview vs. when we go to get groceries? Because we want people to perceive us a particular way and dressing up that way sets that expectation. Why do we talk one way with our friends and confidants and another with people in positions of authority – not just polite vs impolite, but the language we use, the tone of voice we take on and the way we express particular thoughts? Because we’re conveying a different image of ourselves to different people.
Setting expectations is one of the reasons why a first impression is important; a first impression forms the basis for what people think of us and thus change how they interpret what we say or do. If your first impression leaves someone thinking that you’re a sexed up lothario, they’re going to hear and see you through that filter. And if they’re expecting another horny bro who thinks that salsa classes are just a fancy sex ATM… well, the odds are good that they’re going to see that in you too.
Now, remember what I just said about how the way we talk to our friends vs. authorities? Well, that applies elsewhere too. Consider, for example, the folks at your salsa class who think you’re an awesome guy. You know, the ones you’re not necessarily attracted to. You are almost certainly talking to them and interacting with them differently than you are the women you think would be good potential partners. In fact, I’m willing to bet that you’re your more relaxed, authentic self with them because you’re not invested in a particular outcome. Instead of, say, trying to win them over or convince them to like you, you’re just able to vibe, get to know them and generally just be your natural fun self. Small wonder they think you’re a great guy; you’re behaving like a great, fearless guy when you’re around them.
Contrast that with how you’re behaving with the people who you’re more into. I’m willing to bet that you’re significantly different with them. You might be a little stiffer and more tense. You might be a bit more jittery with nervous energy and a fear of being cringe or screwing things up. Or you might have a tone that comes off a little more Joey Tribbiani “how you doin’?” than you intend. That ends up setting off someone’s Spidey-sense and – fairly or not – leads them to think that you’re a wannabe f--kboy. Especially if that’s their first interaction with you and not a friendship that you’ve built up over time.
OK so that’s a lot of ground we just covered, so let’s start bringing this all home to some practical applications. First and foremost: consider the first impression you’re making on people and what sort of filter you want them to see you through. You presumably want those women to see you through the same sort of filter that the non-potential partners have – the one where you’re a cool, confident, social guy. OK… so that means you want to set that tone with the other folks too. Treat the women you’re attracted to the same as you’re treating the ones you’re not – same energy, same way of talking, same overall behavior. Give them the reasons to see you the way your friends do by behaving the same way.
Now, another part of this is to change your filter – you want to change what youare expecting to see and what you’re expecting to experience. In this case, you want to go into these interactions – both with new friends, new dance partners and new potential dates – with the assumption that they already like you. Not that you’re Studly Goodnight, Master Seducer, but that everyone here already thinks you’re a pretty cool guy. It’s a very small mental shift, but it’s a profound one. When you’re coming into the conversation with the idea that people are already favorably inclined to you, you subconsciously change your behavior. You’re warmer, friendlier and more confident. Your body language becomes calmer and more open, the same as it would be with people you know and like. You move with more poise and ease, the way you do with friends. All of these subtle changes change how other people see you. You’re setting the tone with this first impression that tells people what to see when they look at you.
A third thing to do is to drop all expectations with these attractive, available and appropriate women. Don’t think of them as potential dates or in terms of “single” or not. Instead you have two goals: have a good time dancing with them and being curious about them as a person. What makes them tick? What makes them interesting? What is their story? And – critically – what makes them worth your time?
That last one is important. Part of the reason why guys with little social experience get incredibly tense and anxious when trying to meet people is that they often come in to the conversation with the idea that they need to impress the other person or justify their own attraction to them.
The problem with this outlook is pretty simple: you don’t know anything about this person. You know they’re physically attractive and that’s it. But physical attractiveness doesn’t make them a better person than you. It doesn’t make them more worthy than you. It certainly doesn’t mean that you need to win their approval in order to be in their presence. But when you think that way, you’re coming to the interaction with the expectation that you’re either in the negatives and have to fight to get to zero, never mind to positives, or that you have to be The Best Man Ever. And even if things do go well, you’re now in a position of never fully trusting the connection you have with them because you’ve spent so much time convincing yourself that they could do better. So you’re never fully secure in the relationship with them, always half-waiting for the Sword of Damocles to come crashing down at any moment.
So instead: try to figure out what they’ve got going on besides their looks. Find out if there’s enough “there” there to make you want to spend time with them, regardless of whether sex or romance are on the table or not. Have a good dance, have a good conversation and hey, maybe things line up for a date, maybe they don’t. Either way: you win because you had an awesome time and met a cool person.
But what about these women who like you but aren’t appropriate potential dates? These are your friends and your social proof. These are people who are saying that you’re a cool guy who’s great to dance with to all and sundry – and especially other women in the classes. They’re also potential wingwomen – people who can help you talk to other women, create opportunities to meet people and even brag a little on your behalf. They’re the ones who are ready and willing to say “hey, maybe you should dance with Split Decision, he’s really good!” or to say “yeah, there’re some turbo creeps who show up occasionally, but then there’re the guys like Split Decision who’re really cool”.
They’re also give you some feedback. You’re not sure what’s happening that’s making these dance partners vanish to go interact with other people? Well hey, turns out you’ve got a bunch of folks who can watch or even surreptitiously listen in and give you their idea of what’s going on. Yeah, you have to take the inherent subjectivity of perception into account, but as a third party, outside observer, they’re in a place to pick up on things that you can’t see. They aren’t going to be lost in their heads, the way that we so often can be when talking to a pretty lady, and they’re seeing you from angles and perspectives that you simply can’t see, especially in the moment.
So, if there’s something you’re saying or doing that you aren’t aware of and it’s coming off a particular way, or you’re inadvertently giving horny shark vibes, your friends can say “well, you did X and I think that she didn’t like that.” Or “It looks like she just wasn’t in the mood for chitchat”. Or even “I don’t think you didn’t do anything wrong, near as I can tell”. Which seems less than helpful but it actually can be; as the sage says, “it’s possible to commit no errors and still lose.” Because hey, sometimes some folks just aren’t going to like you that way, no matter what anyone does and that’s OK. There’re folks who wouldn’t be into you if you looked like Glen Powell and were covered in nacho cheese. Not everybody has to and not everyone you’re attracted to is your last, best hope for love.
Now, I’m focusing a lot on the dance classes, but all of this applies to the rest of your life to – including all those times you’ve been sure that the women you’re talking to would rather do anything else. If that’s the attitude you have about yourself, then that’s what you’re going to get. A woman could strip down to her bra and panties and tell you to take her now in a manly fashion and you’d be pretty sure she’s just being sarcastic or trying to get the conversation over with.
So much of the change is going to have to come from within and how you see yourself. Until that changes, you’re still going to see things in the most negative light possible and respond accordingly, while also encouraging others to respond that way as well.
Remember all those people who think you’re awesome? Well, you may want to ask yourself: why don’t their opinions count? What makes them so uniquely positive when clearly they’re an outlier? Just between you and me and the wall… it really is coming down to “because I’m not into them”. And that’s not actually a great reason to dismiss them. If anything, I’d argue that because they can see you at your most natural and most assured, they’re seeing the real you, the best and most authentic you. So maybe that is the guy you need to be bringing to the party when you’re out meeting people. Because that person is unquestionably there. You just have to let him take the wheel. Even when the person in front of you’s got a butt to make the Buddha cry.
Good luck.
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