DEAR DR. NERDLOVE: I read your column once in a while and never thought I’d have to be here. But lo’ and behold, here we are.
To get to the point. A dear friend who rejected me not too long ago is being uncomfortably touchy-feely and bringing up how I moved on real fast now that I have a girlfriend.
For context, I met this friend — Hera — a long time ago, but we started to seriously hang out when a mutual buddy of ours organized a weekly Vampire: The Masquerade TTRPG session and invited us as players. From there on we hit it off great as friends and we started hanging out outside of our weekly sessions. The amusement park, playing games together, etc. All great things that we did as friends.
Flash forward to three months ago, and I notice that I’m beginning to develop feelings. Now I know myself and I know that if I don’t address emotions when they are just buds, the ensuing garden will be painful as heck to trim if anything goes wrong. So I tell Hera exactly that, that I am starting to develop feelings for her. She tells me politely but in no uncertain terms that she does not feel the same and that we should reduce our hangouts outside our weekly sessions for a while. I’ve no issue with waiting until if and when she feels comfortable with hanging out off-table again so I respect that. And luckily our dynamic while playing Vampire wasn’t affected by this.
A month passes and I’ve completely moved on. I meet Freya at this time. Freya had been going to the same gym I go to for a decent amount of time. We’d never talked but that day she asked for general exercise advise, and we talked about that for a bit. We went for some coffee afterwards and really clicked together. Freya and I share our hobby of reading, she is a musician and, even though I don’t work in the field, I am a trained vocalist. So since we share that in common, we often go on deep dives on the topic and have jam sessions.
Once it’s clear that we are going to go forward together, we make it official. I only tell people if they ask or if we organize a double date or something. Outside of that I don’t feel like shouting out my private life to the four winds so I don’t particularly bother to tell anyone else, Hera included.
However in the session that came after I made it official with Freya, Hera came up to me almost immediately and asked me if it was true I had a girlfriend. I’ve no clue how she found out, but when I said yes she said something to the effect of “well someone moved on quickly” in a rather snide manner. I thought it was odd but chalked it up to a joke that didn’t land and thought nothing of it.
Nevertheless, as time has gone on, I’ve found that just about every session we have, in the time before we start as well as when we have a break to eat, Hera keeps making comments such as “if we had started dating back then we’d be going to my apartment after this” and though she is already a very touchy person usually, lately she keeps trying to hold my hand and one time she started to rub my upper thigh. I stood up and went to the bathroom after that particular time.
I talked to Hera about how this made me uncomfortable, and she said that it’s her right since she’s known me longer and “knows me far better than Freya ever will.” Which I take to mean she won’t stop. For the previous session, I asked another girl at the table who’d noticed the situation at the table to swap me places so that she sat next to Hera instead of me, and I also arrived slightly later than I usually do so that Hera does not have a chance to ambush me with off-putting comments. And I’ve been avoiding situations where just the two of us might be there together.
My question is: why is this even happening? Moreover what can I do here? I don’t wanna leave the game because it has been years since I have had the chance to have a consistent TTRPG group. And lastly, while I’ve told Freya a bit of what’s happening, I do want to let her know that she’s my no. 1 priority right now. And want to make it very clear to her that I have 0 romantic interest in Hera. What do you recommend me to do to achieve that?
Thank you for reading Dr! And I hope there’s something I can do here.
-Trouble at the Tabletop
DEAR TROUBLE AT THE TABLETOP: OK, TATT, I’m going to skip to the important part: Explaining things to Freya shouldn’t really be an issue here. If Freya is at all a reasonable adult, she should recognize that this isn’t some sort of threat to your relationship with her. Similarly, why Hera is acting like this isn’t as important as what you need to do here – and that’s to tell Hera to keep both her comments and her hands to herself.
The way she’s acting is not cool. She’s making you uncomfortable and I would suspect that it’s making other folks in the group uncomfortable too. It doesn’t matter whether she’s trying to mark territory, make trouble for you and Freya or has a chronic case of “only wants what she can’t have”. You have to draw a hard line and tell her to knock it the f--k off, in so many words.
You need to say – out loud, to her, in no uncertain terms – that you don’t appreciate her touching you like that and you want her to stop. Similarly, tell her, straight up, that you aren’t interested in flirting with her, nor do you appreciate her comments about how “if you were dating”. It’s not appropriate, nor is it funny, nor does it matter if “she knew you longer” or “better” or whatever. Whatever “privileges” she thinks she has because of knowing you for as long as she has aren’t inviolate, nor do they override your desire for her to not act like that.
So you need to make it clear that this is not wanted, not cool and, importantly, needs to stop now. There’re no seniority clauses when it comes to boundaries, and the various privileges you may have allowed her to have are entirely at your discretion – which means you can pull them back at any time, for any reason.
So, why is she acting like this? Well, there’re any number of possible reasons. Occasionally, someone many not realize they have feelings for someone or find someone attractive until they realize that other people might be into them. Seeing them through the eyes of another – the person who did say yes to a date, for example – makes them realize that maybe they felt more than they knew. Or they might have a jealous surge; just because they said “no” doesn’t mean that they want to share or see that other person go to someone else. This can especially be true if they’re getting something from the person they rejected – attention, emotional intimacy, etc. – without also having a romantic or sexual connection.
Some people feel possessive of the people in their lives, especially folks they know are interested in them romantically and have a weird sense ownership over them. Other people get a charge from knowing that someone has feelings for them, when they don’t return them. It gives an ego boost and a sense of power over them, knowing that this person is quietly pining away. They don’t appreciate it when the other person actually taking their “no” seriously and choosing to move on instead of becoming an orbiter.
Or it could be as simple and as banal as you pricked her ego by moving on and finding someone else. If we strip all the unreasonable s--t that Hera is doing out of it, having someone confess that they have feelings and then turn around and start a relationship with someone else can sting. It’s not unreasonable to feel a little irked by that; if someone can say they really like you but then find someone else so quickly, that could make somebody feel disposable or like the attraction was more about fitting someone into the hole marked “girlfriend”.
But there’s having a moment of feeling your ego get bruised and waging a weird campaign of inappropriate comments and touching. You did the thing I tell folks to do all the time after getting rejected: accept it with good grace and move on. You did, you found someone who was a better match and – importantly – wanted you back. The fact that Hera is having a weird snit about it is a her problem, not a you problem. If she genuinely is interested… well, too bad. She had her window of opportunity and missed. If she’s playing weird power games to try to reestablish her place of influence over you, then she needs to grow the f--k up and move the f--k on herself.
But as I said: none of that really matters, because the reasoning isn’t as important as the actions behind them. She’s being inappropriate, and you need to lay down boundaries and be willing to enforce them. If you tell her to knock it off, but don’t do anything if she refuses, then all you’ve done is tell her that your boundaries don’t matter. So draw lines about what you’re willing to tolerate here and make them stick. If she was ever your friend in good faith, she should understand that she’s crossing a line. And if she doesn’t… well, that’s when you may have to talk to the others about her and how her antics are making you feel.
Good luck.
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