DEAR DR. NERDLOVE : Why do I have to initiate conversation nearly 100% of the time? I regularly go out to try to meet new people, in various different places, but nobody ever comes up and starts talking to me. But if I want to meet anyone, I have to do just that. But why do I have to be the one who has to do that 100% of the time? Shouldn’t it be something like 50/50? I’m not even talking about the societal expectation that men initiate romantic and sexual relationships with women and do all the approaching here, this is with anything, even platonic.
I have such a hard time initiating conversation that I usually just stress out and sit down alone. Things might go better if someone started conversation with me. But nobody does.
The only explanation I can think of is that nobody has any interest in me. Even if I go to a group thing where the group all sits together, nobody seems to acknowledge me, if I try to say anything, it’s not noticed or ignored.
Why do I have to be the one who initiates conversation every time?
That’s Me In The Corner
DEAR THAT’S ME IN THE CORNER: It seems like I get a variation of this question fairly often – both in a romantic context but also in an extrovert/introvert one. So we’re going to do a dip into who makes the first move and why.
There’re a few things that contribute to this sort of situation, and it’s important to not get tunnel vision as to why… or if it’s really happening the way you think.
First and foremost: The idea that “the only explanation is nobody has any interest in me” is overly simplistic and to an extent, self-serving. Yes, it’s putting yourself down, but it’s also implying that you’re the only person so put-upon and so isolated that this is the only reason why other folks can’t make the first move. This is a variation of the Illusion of Asymmetric Insight, where you assume that you can read everyone else perfectly, but you are a black box of mystery to everyone else.
You need to consider the distinct possibility that you’re not the only person who gets shy or intimidated about trying to talk to folks they don’t know. While there are certainly folks who network the way other people breathe, that’s not everyone. Hell, in a post-lockdown society, that’s likely a minority; pretty much everyone went feral during the lockdown and not everyone’s gotten back in the swing of being social again.
Second: consider the effort you’re putting in to being approachable. This is, quite honestly, an underappreciated skill, and something that a lot of folks don’t realize is a skill. A lot of times, men (and it’s mostly men) who complain that they have to do all the approaching don’t realize that part of the reason why they don’t have people coming over to talk to them is because they’re frequently giving off “don’t talk to me” vibes and signals.
If you’re getting so worked up that you’re stressing out and going to sit down somewhere, then you’re likely sending off messages that say “not interested, go away”, and people are reacting accordingly. Closed off body language, focusing on your phone or looking like you just bit into a moldy lemon are going to dissuade folks from coming over to say hi.
Similarly, if you’re posting up away from the crowds or in places that are out of the flow of traffic, you’re increasing the obstacles between you and people who might be interested in talking to you. The more that someone is going to have to make an effort to get over to you, the more interested in talking to you they’re going to have to be. And even someone who’s generally social and outgoing is going to have to be pretty invested in meeting you if they’re going to have to cross a lot of tables or people or whatnot to get there. The more effort it’s going to take to get to you, the more you’re going to have to signal your interest in other people approaching you.
That means doing things like looking around the room and meeting people’s eyes, looking relaxed and smiling like you’re having a good time. You want to have open, inviting body language – which means not folding in on yourself, not holding things in front of or across your torso like a shield or turning your back to the room in general. And if you are browsing your phone, looking up and looking around more than you look at the phone is going to signal interest in other people. Otherwise, it just looks like you’re not interested in being social.
Third: considering that other folks can be as shy or as cautious to meet other folks, you want to make it as easy for them as you’d like it to be for you. If you’ve wondered what to say when you meet someone or wanted an excuse to talk to them, then remember that other folks are feeling the same way. This is why being out in the flow of traffic is important, as is facing the room, instead of facing the bar, or the table or just “away”. But so is having something that can function as a conversation starter.
If you remember the early days of the PUA craze, one of the more common aspects that people would mock was the concept of “peacocking” – people wearing eye-catching, outré or just plain weird stuff out to bars, as immortalized by Erik “Mystery” Von Markovik’s fuzzy top hat. In theory, this was supposed to confidence – no “average frustrated chump” would dare roll up in the club looking like they got caught in an explosion between Spencer’s Gifts and Hot Topic, after all. But while folks took this to absurd levels, there was value to it it: not to ‘display confidence’, per se, but something that could serve as an easy conversation starter for folks who wanted an excuse to say “hello”. I’ve had more people start conversations with me because of my tattoos than I can easily count.
Now, part of the problem is that it’s easy to go overboard, which is why it’s a good rule of thumb to have a statement piece, and let the rest of your outfit be normal and support it. If you’re going to wear, say, a funky hat, or a really cool jacket, you want to keep the rest of your look fairly simple – especially if you’re not someone who has the personality or style sense to pull off a more complicated look.
And it’s worth noting that this conversation piece can and should be tailored to the crowd that you’re hoping to interact with. If you’re going to be around nerds, wearing a piece that signals your nerdy interests is a good starting point. I’ve had great conversations with folks that started because I recognized that they were wearing a shirt with Captain Harlock’s insignia or a Mighty Nein reference.
Fourth: There’s being ignored and then there’s not being heard or understood. A lot of folks who are shy and retiring or who feel awkward around crowds often are bad at either making themselves heard or asserting themselves enough for others to engage with them. If you’re sitting with others and you’re only making token efforts at saying something – opening your mouth to reply, but not actually speaking, for example – then a lot of times people may not notice that’s what you’re trying to do. You have to be willing to speak up with more volume and forcefulness than you might normally – either to be heard over the crowd or not talked over by others. If you’re not willing to claim your space, then you’re just putting yourself in the position of needing of hoping that someone else will notice and call attention to you… much as you seem to have been with hoping other people will notice you and come over to talk to you, first.
And, frankly, yes, this can be a skill issue, too. Being a good conversationalist is a skill. Being a good conversationalist in a group setting or a party or a bar is a related, but different skill. This is one of the reasons why learning to be good at small talk is important; it’s part and parcel of establishing a rapport with someone and getting to know them. For all that folks talk about hating small talk, it’s an important skill to acquire. At its base, small talk is about finding common ground and shared interests or experiences that can then be leveraged into other topics.
So too is hearing and being heard, learning how to follow and adapt to the flow of conversation and how to contribute, even if you’re just contributing by listening.
And finally: if you’re getting overwhelmed by trying to talk to people, then you need to consider what the cause is and why. Is it social anxiety? Is it that you’re trying to meet people in the wrong places? If you’re having such a hard time that the effort of starting a conversation is enough to send you into a spiral, then you’re going to have to learn to either manage it (possibly via therapy or medication, especially if it’s an anxiety disorder) or work around it. You may need to focus on lower-energy, less chaotic venues or places that lend themselves to one-on-one conversations. Or you may need to build up your social muscles, practicing having mini-conversations over the course of the day.
But at the end of the day, someone needs to make the first move. It may as well be you. Because if you’re hoping that someone else is going to do all the heavy lifting for you? You’re likely going to be waiting a long time until you find one of those mythical extroverts that go around adopting people.
Good luck.
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