DEAR DR. NERDLOVE: I have a… predicament. I seem to potentially be in a scenario where I have to choose between downgrading my friendships and working towards having a partner, and it kind of sucks. Now, hearing that, your mind probably immediately jumps to “no, please, don’t throw away your friends for someone jealous and controlling!” Alas, that scenario would in some ways be less obnoxious than the one I find myself in.
While reading a recent post of yours, one of your links went to your column “This Is The Best Way To Meet Amazing Women“. I… well, I did that by coincidence. Near the start of the year, I joined a local IRL friend meetup server because I was lonely, went really hard at it, and fixed my social life. Yay! After 33 years of kind of being alone, I’m now one of the Popular Kids™.
I’m part of the leadership for the server, I have a lot of friends, I reach out to new people who seem to be struggling and encourage people to come to events. I’m very proud of this accomplishment. But… it hasn’t really translated to any dating success.
Now, there’s a complicating factor here: I’m a lesbian. I’m also trans, which isn’t generally super relevant (I’ve been out and passing as many years of my adult life as I had presented as a guy), I get very little surface-level discrimination, and culturally I haven’t had to consider myself from a male or openly trans perspective in a very long time, but it does at least theoretically affect social dynamics under the hood so I figured I’d mention.
This is kind of a general issue. While I’m obviously very proud of my social life and social success, it is a relatively mainstream meetup Discord server. It’s extremely queer friendly, our queer population probably exceeds the general population statistically. But the dating pool for me remains small.
Please, forgive me about to describe the server like a dating meat market, if this wasn’t a dating advice question I would never analyze the server in this way, but: most of the people are straight (and cis). Of those very few who are WLW, there’s a couple I’m not attracted to (so it goes), and almost all of the ones I do like are bi women who have only dated men. Obviously that’s not a problem in and of itself, I’d date bi women happily, but there is both difficulty in overcoming the psychological barrier becoming a bi woman’s first female partner, and the availability of male (or heavily masc) partners is so much higher, so they tend to be taken/polysaturated or currently only actively pursuing men.
Telling people I like them is still really hard for me. Crushing makes me feel like a creep and a predator, I tend to freak out, I go through a lot of stress. But… I persevered, and have tried to push through it (and your advice to people actually helped in that area a lot as I kept it in mind). All told, I’ve gotten two crushes and… two rejections. Heartbreaking, but to be expected and I’m trying to not let it get me down. That said, after that I appear to be… out of candidates. Oops.
Obviously that’s a small number, dating is a numbers game etc. I’m demisexual and I think possibly demiromantic, I crush on friends, and also very rarely get crushes. Obviously your advice in that article I linked above was mostly aimed at cis straight men, and it makes sense this doesn’t necessarily apply to lesbians as easily, given the limited pool. That said, due to the whole “double demi” thing, I will say that dating apps are kind of hell for me, I end up scrolling through scores of profiles hitting “pass” not because I don’t think they’re not really lovely people, but because the absolute most glowing assessment I can give someone is “… meh” from just a short text blurb and a picture.
The stats for how many lesbian couples meet online are pretty hard to find, I’ve found 28% from Pew, and 65% from a study in 2019, but both of those are combined LGB couples, not just lesbians, and that’s a *pretty wide* variance. Even so, it’s unfortunate that online dating doesn’t seem to be a great avenue for me and I was really hoping the “improving my social group” route would pay off better in hindsight.
This is where the zugzwang comes in. I feel like I have two realistic options:
Just… keep doing what I’m doing and hope a cute girl that mutually likes me joins the server by sheer chance, and/or keep telling people I’m open to matchmaking and pray someone pulls a cute lesbian friend to set me up with out of the aether, OR
Find a friend pool with a higher number of potential partners
This is where my dating zugzwang comes in. You see I… kind of like my friends? And I’m also honestly kind of at close friend *saturation*. This is going to sound braggy, maybe it is a little, but it is important nonetheless: my social calendar is kind of *full*. I generally have at least 3-4 days a week blocked out for one-on-one hangouts with the same close friends, and 2-3 days for group events. I really only have like 0-3 days a week to myself, averaging about 1. I can reconfigure my schedule a little, but my wiggle room is… very tight.
My issue is that option 1 above seems kind of… inefficient. Not impossible, one of my friends considered setting me up with their friend (their ex, technically), because they thought we’d get along, but they ultimately didn’t both she’s apparently kind of jealous and controlling (hence the “ex” bit), but also she got into a relationship right when they started considering doing so. In general this seems very unlikely to pay off. Especially since, shockingly, when your friend group is from a Discord server meant for people without friends to make new ones, most of people’s friends are others from the server that I already know since they were, y’know, lonely before joining. I’ve been considering blocking out a free day to take a weaving class or some other class I’m interested in for its own sake, which seems fun, but still suffers similar dating pool likelihood limitations for similar reasons to the server (i.e. most people aren’t lesbians).
In contrast option 2 seems almost… s--tty? Since I’m kinda friend saturated, it feels scummy since it’d be hard to *not* to some degree treat it like a meat market since I really have limited capacity for new close friendships ATM. Trying to get into a new social circle naturally means tradeoffs. I *also* just feel scummy telling some of my close friends more or less “hey so like we need to hang out less often so I can spend more time making new lesbian friends that’ll be more likely to find me a cute girl to kiss.” They might even understand, but it still feels kinda like… just like being a bad friend?
I don’t know what to do. My self-esteem is taking a hit because I’ve honestly never had anyone like me back (not strictly true, but I’m not counting the two highly abusive relationships I’ve had years ago that said I was unloveable or they never loved me, not to mention the girl who forgot we were dating). I just want someone to hold hands and cuddle and watch a movie with, but it’s so hard. Each rejection is hitting me harder and harder. But at the same time I’m trying to take my friends’ advice to heart that this is very probably a “limited dating pool” issue more than a “me” issue, and that I just need to meet more people. My friend did offer to learn my type and swipe *for me* on a dating app, essentially playing matchmaker with random profiles since I can’t find profiles I like on my own due to my demi-ness, it might be fun, but I’m low confidence on it really working out since I don’t see even a first dating piercing through me generally needing to be know someone at least beyond an acquaintance level before being romantically attracted to them.
So yeah, do you have any advice how to cut through what feels like a very difficult situation to me? I’d really prefer to not betray my friends just so I can find a girlfriend.
Signed,
~ Did Everything Right But Still Lost
DEAR DID EVERYTHING RIGHT BUT STILL LOST: You’re making this much harder than it needs to be DER. This isn’t a Kobayashi Maru situation, it’s just that you’ve given yourself a false dichotomy. You have far more options than you seem to recognize and you’re not in a place where you either have to just sit around and hope for more queer women join your server or ditch your friends.
I mean, to start with, you aren’t obligated to spend all your free time with your friends. Don’t get me wrong, having a tight social circle is generally a good thing, but there’s a difference between a tight social circle and a leash around your neck. It almost sounds like you’ve fallen for a couple of the Geek Social Fallacies – specifically “Friends Above All” and “Friends Do Everything Together”.
You aren’t expected to give up everything in order to maintain your friendships – especially your desire to find a partner. In fact, your friends shouldn’t want you to give up everything just for them. That’s not healthy under the best of circumstances, and it’s especially unhealthy if your friends actually demand this of you.
Fortunately, it sounds to me like this particular call is coming from inside the house. Which doesn’t mean it’s any less troublesome, but it’s a hell of a lot easier to resolve when it’s your own worries rather than something your friends are insisting upon.
Similarly, you don’t need to make your friends the center of your existence to the point that they have to be involved in all aspects of it. You’re allowed to have time with people who aren’t part of that particular circle. S--t, it’s even possible to have different social circles. After all, we’re all complicated and complex individuals who have wild, varied and disparate interests and sides to ourselves; not every person we meet is going to vibe 100% with every side and that’s fine. You may have friends who like to do X and a separate group of friends who like to do Y, with no overlap between them. You may even have groups of friends who have no crossover whatsoever and no real contact with one another. That is also fine and normal. Friendship isn’t automatically transitory after all, and having different groups of friends isn’t a betrayal to any of them.
It can play merry hell with your time management, but then again, you’re right back to “you don’t need to spend all your time with them”. You can (and should) block out time just for yourself, for any reason you feel. That may be because you’re people’d out and need a break, because you have other obligations and responsibilities or because you just want some “you” time for stuff that doesn’t involve them. Which, y’know, includes going and meeting potential dates and partners.
If they’re your friends, they should understand that you’re a fully realized person who has a life and needs outside of your immediate social circle and that sometimes life means that you’re not going to be able to spend as much time together as you’d like.
Just as importantly, you have more options than “hope someone wanders in randomly” and “use the dating apps”. Now in fairness: as a woman who’s attracted to women exclusively, you do have a significant challenge in as much as you have a much smaller dating pool than bi, pan or straight women do. That does mean apps are going to be a higher priority for you than they are (or should be) for straight, bi or pan people; after all, it’s much easier to find women who love women in dedicated spaces where they’ve opted in than to go about randomly hoping to stumble across them.
But apps aren’t the only method, even for lesbians. Part of improving the odds of finding a partner is at the intersection of preparation and opportunity – that is, you have to put yourself in fortune’s path. So part of what you should consider is to find your local queer community and take part in it in person. Find more organizations, groups or even just social clubs geared towards queer women. This may be a lesbian sports league, a book club, even volunteer organizations; anything that gets you together with other women who love and date women. While these aren’t necessarily meat market setups, meeting more lesbians and bi and pan women gives you more opportunities for friendships (outside your current circle) and more opportunities for those connections to become something more.
And while dating apps may not be the most efficient method of meeting people for someone who’s demi, it’s still worth giving things a shot and seeing if there’re people who you might want to meet. Here’s the thing that may make things less challenging for you: instead of hoping for instant cartoon hearts and cherubs as soon as you see someone’s picture or profile, focus on if you find them interesting or not. If there’s something about them that strikes your curiosity, consider giving them a chance to meet up in person and see what they’re like when you’re in their physical presence. After all, we’re a species built for face-to-face communication; even the most eloquent profile with the best photos possible can’t convey what a person is like in the flesh. What seems “ok, I guess” on paper may be a “oh hot damn…” in person – you just couldn’t tell because so much of what signals attraction and compatibility can only be determined in actual proximity to them.
That, in turn, makes it easier for you to decide if you want to invest the time it may take to find out if this will be something more than just a quick coffee date.
But to circle back around to the false dichotomy: I think one thing that you may be struggling with is that you’re so caught up in the novelty of having all these friends that you’ve let it overwhelm everything. I get that finally finding something you may have longed for is intoxicating, but you may have gone a bit overboard in your enthusiasm. Maybe it’s the excitement and novelty of it. Maybe it’s been something you’ve been wanting for so long, you’re afraid to do anything that might screw it up. But I can promise you: if they’re your friends, then not being with them all the time or even most of it isn’t going to damage your friendship.
Giving yourself a bit more leeway and letting yourself have time away from the server and that social circle may help you realize that you’ve got more options than you’ve allowed yourself to see.
This isn’t a no-win scenario; it’s just one where you’ve narrowed your options for no real reason. Expand your horizons a bit, give yourself permission to do more just for yourself and to trust your friends. If y’all are really that tight, not only will having your time away not damage anything but they’ll be happy for you when you do find that special someone.
You’ll be ok. Your friendships will be ok too. I promise.
Good luck.
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