DEAR DR. NERDLOVE: I’m a 28 year old man and have had a mostly great relationship with a 29 year old woman for the past year and a half. We work very well together and things are mostly going well romantically and sexually.
I say mostly because I have one kink that she doesn’t know about, and while I’d prefer not to discuss the details of it here, it’s not unsafe and is perfectly consensual, but generally regarded as odd, and somewhat well known to be many people’s hard limit. I wasn’t entirely sure of when to tell her of this at first, but she brought up the kink in a context outside of me fairly early in our relationship (more on that below), and that made me feel like I couldn’t.
With that in mind, I understandably feel hesitant to bring this up and ask about trying it together, but the situation runs a bit deeper than that as well. I’ve jokingly brought up things adjacent to this kink as a means of getting a barometer on what her attitude towards it might be, and every time these have come up, the response has been a very strongly negative attitude towards the thing(s) described. To make matters worse, the specific kink I do have has been in the news in our area thanks to a minority of community members acting poorly when it comes to the kink and keeping it out of non-consenting eyes, and the specific issues it caused in turn were a problem for someone very close to her. As a result, it’s hard to imagine her view on this as anything other than intensely negative, potentially outright hateful and dismissive.
Now, other than this, our relationship is wonderful, and I feel incredibly fulfilled, safe, and loved. I’m just frustrated, as I fear that this could ruin a good thing, and yet, I don’t feel like I can simply ignore this part of me forever. Should I tell her? If so, how should I approach this? If not, what should I do instead?
-High Stakes
DEAR HIGH STAKES: I understand not wanting to talk about the details of your kink HS, but I wish you had. The details you give are so vague and so broadly applicable that you’ve all but guaranteed that people’s imaginations are going to fill in the gaps – often with the wildest and weirdest s--t they can think of.
I mean, is it chastity play? Are you wanting to have your junk locked in a cage for hours at a time? Are you into water-sports and hope to talk your partner into either peeing on you or being peed on? Forced Femme? Vore? Puppy play? Gorean Power Exchange? Adult babies? DD/LG play?
(Don’t Google ANY of this at work, folks…)
Notice how quickly things go from “weird but whatever” to stuff that dials the squick factor to 11 and snaps the knob off? That’s what happens when you’re talking about a polarizing topic like sex and kinks; in the absence of actual information, people will very quickly assume the most dramatic – and often most lurid, disturbing or personally repulsive – options.
Now, I say this because this is precisely why you want to actually talk about this with your partner. Otherwise, if you’re dating someone who’s mostly into original recipe sex and doesn’t have much experience with kink or the kink scene, then when they hear about kink in general or a specific kink, then they’re much more likely to leap to the wildest and weirdest. That’s not only going to taint how they see your kinks, but it also means that they’re going to be much more likely to be responding to inaccurate ideas about what your kink entails.
Just like everyone reading this who’s wondering just what weird s--t you’re hoping to get up to. Even if it’s actually not that weird in the first place.
It’s also why, if this is something that’s an important part of your sexuality and not something that you like but can take or leave, then it’s something you should bring up sooner, rather than later. And, honestly? I think you should bring it up more directly than you did.
Here’s the thing about “trial balloons” or trying to bring up the topic obliquely so you can “feel things out”: it rarely works the way you’d hope. If one’s partner isn’t already familiar with that kink – or if that kink’s more of an edge case than something like foot-worship or spanking – then the odds are they only know the Hollywood Horror Story version of that kink.
And just as importantly, because you’re being so vague or talking about other people, your partner never gets that what you’re actually saying is that this is something that’s important to you. So you end up with a situation where she’s rejecting abstract, but you are the one feeling rejected specifically. That’s a great recipe for ending up exactly where you are now: trying to think about how to talk about something your partner’s said “ewwwww” to before, and had that “ewww” seemingly validated by news stories that rarely report on the topic in an objective manner.
I understand why you floated those trial balloons the way you did. I realize this can be intimidating, even scary. After all, you’re talking about something that, in your words, is a lot of people’s “hard no”. I also understand that you’re worried about your partner’s judgement and losing what is otherwise a satisfying relationship.
Well, let me put it to you this way: are you honestly ok with being in a relationship with someone whose love for you is conditional on your repressing or excising a part of you? If this is, as you say, something you can’t ignore and leave out of your sex life forever, then at some point this is going to come up with you and your partner, and it’s something she’s voiced serious dislike for. So this means that now there’s a clock ticking down the seconds until this particular bomb in your relationship goes off.
Would you rather have risked that explosion early in your courtship, when you haven’t invested as much time and energy on someone who may not be sexually compatible with you? Or would you rather wait until a year, two years, even ten years down the line, when you have so much more invested and so much more to lose?
Look, I understand that, as potentially squicky as your kink may be, it means that your dating pool is going to be limited. But you deserve a relationship with someone who honors and respects your entire self, not just limited aspects, and who actively abhors other parts. That’s not a recipe for a happy, healthy and supportive relationship. That’s a recipe for resentment and guarantees a flaw in the relationship that’ll cause it to end in ways that neither you nor your partner would want.
The timing of this conversation is going to vary from case to case, especially as you get to know your partner. In my opinion, it’s something that should be brought up before the Defining The Relationship talk. Even if it’s a “look, I don’t need this now or every time, but it’s an important part of my sexuality and sexual expression”, if you know that the conversation’s going to come up anyway, it’s better to have it come up at a time when you’re ready for it.
Now to be fair: sometimes you don’t discover you’re into a particular kink until after you started the relationship. But it’s still better to discuss it when you realize that it’s something you need – or at least want to explore – rather than letting it hang about in the background like Banquo’s ghost until you can’t ignore it any longer.
Yeah, putting your kink cards on the table early means risking this relationship ending before it even began… but at the end of the day, that’s a good thing. If this kink is something that you’re going to actually need to be at least an occasional part of your sex life, then that’s the exact result you want. You want the folks who are repulsed by your kink – or who can’t give it the ol’ college try for your sake – to peace out, and early. This is your filter, how you ensure that the people you’re dating are down with the wild adventures you want to take with them. If they’re actively against it or don’t think that they could be at least ok with trying it at some point, then it’s better to say “thank you, we are just not a good match, best of luck to you” and move on.
But, you didn’t. So here we are. What needs to happen now is that you’re going to have to have a conversation about kinks and you’re going to have to lay out that this is something personal to you, not just abstract freakos in your partner’s imagination.
This is a time for the Awkward Conversation formula, where you start off explaining why you haven’t brought this up before. Only now, you’re going to have to say “so, all the times I asked about X, it was because I wanted to know what you thought about it before I told you it was something I was into.”
Then you’re going to need to explain what’s entailed, why it’s something that gets your engine revving and explaining the difference between what she may have seen in the news and how people like you actually perform that kink.
You’re also going to want to tell her that, obviously, you’re capable of having satisfying sex without your kink being involved, but it’s a part of who you are, and it’s something important to you, and an aspect that you would like to share with her.
Then, when it’s her turn to talk, you’re going to have to brace for an immediate negative reaction and be prepared to explain it on a Kink 101 level if she has questions.
This is also going to be a time when you’re going to have to take her immediate reaction with a certain grain of salt. We live in a sex-negative culture, and often our first reaction is how we were taught to respond to something, rather than what we actually think or feel. So that knee-jerk “no, ew!” that you may get is more about a preservation of the status-quo. It’s what she knows and what she’s comfortable with. And you’re going to need to respect that “no”.
However, if you give her the space to think about it on her own and in her own time, she may – and I stress may – change her mind and be willing to at least consider it.
Or she may not. And in that case, you have three options. First: you see if exploring your kink with someone else – whether by booking sessions with a pro-domme or making connections in your local BDSM community – is an acceptable compromise. If this isn’t a kink that involves direct sexual contact, this may be something she could agree to and enable you to have both your partner and explore your kink.
Second: you continue to suppress this desire for as long as you possibly can. As I’m sure you know, that’s not really a viable strategy. Trying to force something away doesn’t make it go away, it just puts it under greater pressure. And then that pressure builds until it breaks containment, messily and all over the place.
Third: you recognize that this relationship, for as much as you get from it, is not going to meet your needs. You can love and honor and respect someone and still need to leave, because you have needs that can’t be met. And this would ultimately be kinder both to you – who needs someone who’s at least kink-curious – and your partner, who is only into original recipe sex.
Now, it’s worth remembering that every relationship is going to be a matter of compromise on both sides. Nobody gets 100% of what they want from a partner; you look at what you do get from that relationship and that partner and decide if what you do get is so good that you’re willing to forgo the rest as part of the cost of the relationship.
It’s a difficult situation, HS, and I don’t envy you. But it’s better to actually talk this out with your partner, instead of hoping that you’ll either bankshot your way into making it happen or that you can just pretend it’s not something you need until you can’t pretend any more.
Good luck.
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