DEAR DR. NERDLOVE: I have read your column before and can say I am a fan of your advice. I am a young man currently enrolled in graduate school in the U.S. and having recently turned 23 years old I have never been in a romantic relationship. Not to sound arrogant, but I like to believe I have a lot going for me, I have a college degree, my own apartment with a roommate, a car, I go to school in a nice area, I try to dress well, have traveled a lot, am ambitious, and even though I am not tall I have even been told I should model before. None of this is me trying to brag, believe me, it’s just pointing out qualities of my life.
I’ve gone out on dates with girls my age over the past year and a half, I didn’t have my first kiss until 21 because I was so shy, and I believe these experiences helped me improve on my shyness a bit and at least get some initial romantic fun, however I still have never been in a relationship. None of the girls I went on dates with, with all but a few I usually met off dating apps, ever went past the first or second date and I was never really given a reason for being rejected, which I know I’m not entitled to. These young women I have been pursuing or had feelings for weren’t just conventionally hot types, but a broad range of backgrounds and lifestyles. I don’t really have a physical type when it comes to looking for my partner beyond long hair, is pretty to me, and being somewhat in shape (I am lean but not muscular). It’s much more about the individual.
I would prefer a woman close to my age who is intelligent, seeks to improve herself, is outgoing, can hold a conversation well, and has goals in life.
Maybe I am wrong but I feel like a lot of young women these days have a lot of options of men at their disposal with social media and apps and so the bar is higher. I’ve tried to cultivate an interesting and impressive life, my passions right now are photography, hiking, travel, fashion, going to new restaurants, and volunteering. I have a photography collection online and have really tried to improve my life over the last year and a half. Yet I still don’t feel as if I am good enough or meet the standard of what a desirable man should be. Perhaps trying to prove myself to be broadly appealing to women and people (nice clothes, own place, ambitious etc) isn’t the way to go, but I genuinely enjoy pushing myself towards success. I just wonder when is it enough? When is a man worthy?
Thank you,
What Am I Missing?
DEAR WHAT AM I MISSING: You’re asking the wrong question here, WAIM. But hey, it’s the same wrong question a lot of guys ask when they’re trying to be more appealing to women, so you’re hardly alone in this.
Now I want to say that yeah, you’ve got a lot going for you and you’ve got a pretty well-rounded life. That’s all to the good, and that’s going to help with dating and finding yourself a girlfriend.
And no, it’s not about the bar being higher or women having more options than before. Not having to rely on men for pure survival or financial security gave them more options, not dating apps, and even then, that just means that guys need more to offer than “has a steady income”. Dating apps aren’t the issue either; if anything, many – if not most – women’s experiences with dating apps tends to show that the bar can be so low dudes could trip over it and yet many men still can’t clear it.
The problem is dead-bang in the final question you ask: “when is a man worthy?”
Well, if you’re trying to wield Mjolnir, then when he’s on the same level as Captain America, Storm, Jane Foster, Beta Ray Bill, Vision, Superman and Wonder Woman.
(Yes, those last two actually happened.)
But, funny thing: women aren’t Mjolnir. They don’t only date “the worthy”. They date people that they like. If she likes you, then you’re “worthy”.
This is where the disconnect is happening. You list a lot of facts about your life and like I said: those are all good things and make you a more generally well-rounded person, a more interesting person and someone who’s got a lot going for him.
But that’s not what’s going to make women decide they want to date you. They have to like you to want to date you. The stuff you list up front – having a college degree, your own place, a car, etc. – those are good indications that you’re financially secure. That’s great! But that’s not going to help you woo women. Plenty of folks who don’t have degrees, who live with their parents or take public transit date and get married. Having your own car can certainly be a value-add – God knows the car-centric designs of most American cities make living without one a massive pain in the ass – but that’s not going to make someone decide that she wants to get coffee or go to an art exhibition with you.
The same goes with being well traveled, liking hiking, etc. Those are things you enjoy, things you might share with someone… but again: not necessarily what you’re missing here.
What you’re missing is how you make women feel when you interact with them. You want women to feel comfortable with you, to enjoy themselves when they’re with you, to feel excited to spend time with you. And that’s going to involve your social skills, not your equipment list.
Now I realize these are all things I’ve encouraged you and others to pursue. But having those interests or passions isn’t just about ticking off boxes on a checklist, it’s about how you put them into practice with people you meet.
Let’s take travel, for example. Liking to travel is great, having visited exotic locales is awesome, I highly recommend it for everyone. But can you talk about having been to those places? Can you tell stories about your adventures while you were traveling? It’s one thing to say “yeah, I go out to Los Angeles all the time”, it’s another to say “man, last time I went to LA it was crazy. I started the night at this one bar chatting with an Iranian archeologist, his Australian girlfriend and his friend the British travel facilitator to the rich and famous and before I knew it, we’d all done shots and we were piling into a Lyft to Koreatown and went to this amazing club that was hidden in a warehouse, where, check this out, the British travel guy was three shots in and started….”
What you’re doing here is threefold. First: you’re entertaining her, telling what is hopefully an amusing story about something interesting that happened to you that either gets a laugh, a “oh wow!” or a “awwww” reaction. Second: you’re telling her a little bit about who you are and what you like to do. Third: you’re giving her an idea of what life with you is like – you like being social, meeting new people and going on crazy adventures at the drop of a hat.
The first part – entertaining her and making her laugh – hits the Reward Theory of Attraction, where we instinctively prioritize relationships with people who make us feel good with their presence. The second gives her insight into who you are as a person. The third tempts her with what she might experience if she were in a relationship with you. Done well, this helps make you a more desirable potential date; you’re interesting and do interesting things and you make her laugh.
The same goes for hiking. Were you talking with someone who is into hiking as well, your interest in hiking is an opportunity for the two of you to bond over this shared interest. You would want to talk to her about her favorite hiking spots or experiences, find out more about her interests and what makes her tick. Asking questions, getting her opinions on topics, showing that you actually want to know what she thinks about things or what she likes? Those are, likewise, going to make her feel good. We instinctively like people who are similar to us, so having those shared interests and commonalities increases that sense of “we’re so similar”. By the same token, asking about her inerest, wanting to know more about her hobbies and what she enjoys about hiking invite her to talk about herself – something that we rarely experience when dealing with other people. More often than not, we encounter people who don’t listen, they just are waiting for their turn to talk.
Showing genuine interest in what she has to say and what she thinks and giving real consideration and respect to what she’s into? That is a rare gift, and one people appreciate.
Plus, by talking about things she enjoys and asking her about her favorite hiking trails or whatnot encourages her to think about positive experiences she’s had… which improve her mood, make her feel good and – importantly – helps create an association between those good feelings and you.
So rather than looking at your stats, ask yourself: how are you with projecting warmth and friendliness? How are you doing at making her feel like the most fascinating person in the world? Are you helping her enjoy herself with you, not just by being charming and delightful but by taking her on interesting dates and facilitating her having a good time?
Get that locked down and then things like your financial security, your goals, ambitions, values and interests become much more relevant. Once someone likes you and decides she may be interested in a relationship with you, then you’re going to be moving to “ok, we like each other, but are we compatible?” After all, you can like someone so much your teeth hurt… but that doesn’t mean that you and they could work as a couple.
But as I said: before you get there, first they have to like you. So that’s where you need to start putting more of your attention… and you’ll start getting more of their attention.
Good luck.
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