DEAR DR. NERDLOVE: I’m a 26 year old cis male virgin, and I’m autistic, and frankly that’s no fun. I’ve got way too much anxiety over especially how everyone (especially women) casually bad mouth virgins at best being over grown man children and at worst dangerous ticking time bombs. Keep in mind I live in the city where the virgin van attack took place (and he also had autism) not surprisingly women here have a pretty understandable fear and stigma of male virgins.
Even then confessing to others even a potential or sex partner is way too risky for me because the reaction is guaranteed to be negative one whether it’s mockery or disgust. Doesn’t help my hobbies just scream TURBO VIRGIN like video games and painting miniatures (Warhammer and Battletech) and hell when a friend who was a girl asked what was in the bag which contained Warhammer minis and I just responded “oh it’s my bag of shame” to try so sound more humble and self-aware and she responded “why are you ashamed of that?” Which admittedly did paralyze me because I didn’t have an answer at the moment.
But the thing is I do have an answer and well it’s the fact that I’m enjoying a thing makes me feel like I’m perpetuating a negative stereotype of both autistic people and virgins. And that’s on top of me living with my parents and struggling to hold down a job.
You might say some women might not mind my virginity or even turned on by it is not really reassuring. Because former they’re as rare a two headed Albino bearded dragon and no woman with any ounce of self-respect would ever sleep with an older virgin because they’re frankly awful in bed and she doesn’t want to educate him because it’s not her job. The latter it feels like I’m being fetishized, pitted and condensed too which isn’t really how I want my first time to go. Giving her a sense of superiority but degrading me.
So what do I do? I need the confidence to feel more comfortable with sex but I need to have sexual experience in order to earn that confidence. Do admit it? Do I hide it? How do I know for sure I’m not gonna be shamed or judged? How do I overcome this fear of confessing my shameful secret?
Sincerely
A Living Failure
DEAR A LIVING FAILURE: Alright ALF, I’m going to give you the same advice I give so many people in your position. It’s going to be rough, it’s going to be difficult, and you’re not going to want to listen at first. You’re going to insist that no, this is different, this isn’t the problem, all the usual arguments. Trust me: I’ve heard them all, none of them are correct and all of it is just the part of your brain that doesn’t want to hear information that strikes at the definition of who you are as a person.
I want you to listen, as hard as it may be, because you want things to change. If you didn’t, you wouldn’t write in to me, asking for help. So as soon as you feel that first twinge of “nope, not what I need”, remind yourself that this is just your jerkbrain screwing with you and trying to keep you in place.
I want you to turn off your computer and your phone and spend a day outside of your place, just going around town, taking in the sights, enjoying fresh air, sunshine and people who are in the same physical space as you.
Then, the next day – THE VERY NEXT DAY – I want you to close your accounts on 4chan, Reddit, incels.meh and every other forum you’ve been stuck on, because you have a desperate case of “go outside and touch grass.”
Ok, I realize that sounds dismissive, or like I’m not taking you seriously. That’s not true. I’m taking you very seriously. And I am telling you that the reason you feel this way has far more to do with where you’re spending your time than it does with anything people have actually said. And I can tell you this with great certainty because I’ve been doing this gig for a long time, and I’ve been on the Internet for longer than you’ve been alive and I can spot -chan and incel language very, very easily.
The same self-denigrating language about being autistic, about being a virgin, about women hating virgins, about how nobody wants to have sex with older virgins because it’s guaranteed to be bad… none of that is new, all of that is older than you and – most importantly – none of it is true. People have been saying it over and over again to one another since the days of FIDONet, and it was bulls--t then, just as it’s bulls--t now. All of what you’ve said is just crabs-in-a-bucket catastrophizing, people reinforcing their own misery and belief that they’re stuck and trying to disincentivize others from actually improving, for fear that it’ll prove that their situation is actually the result of their own choices and not some genetic curse or sign of God’s hate.
The most obvious example would be “everyone hates virgins” and “talks openly about how awful virgins are”. OK cool, gonna need some sources that are a) actually in person, not online, b) actually said “all virgins are ticking timebombs” c) are older than high-school and d) weren’t just s--tty people just bullying someone.
The place where you are going to find folks saying those things are… subreddits, chan forums and the like. Even if I am extremely generous and grant that the folks saying those things are actually who they say they are and are serious and not just s--t-posting, then what you’re seeing is a self-selected group of people who are already primed to believe everything they read online, not a meaningful subsection of the population. You’re seeing people who’ve chosen to be part of a niche community engaging in a system that encourages being louder and more emphatic than the last person, creating an echo effect that serves to trick your brain into thinking that this position is more widely held than it really is.
The same goes for video sites like TikTok, where the algorithm prioritizes and privileges extreme content and incentivizes people to stake out even more extreme positions in order to get engagement. The things you see on TikTok or YouTube aren’t genuine measures of what the people believe, they’re measures of what make people react and thus goose the video’s position in people’s feeds.
Volume is not the same as popularity. Especially in a relatively closed ecosystem.
Much of what you’re believing right now is predicated on ignorance and outright misinformation. Let’s take the “my hobbies are too shameful” bit for example – the idea that liking video games, Warhammer or Battletech or other miniature-based games are the social mark of Cain. This might come as a surprise to… well a whole lot of folks, really. Novelist, screenwriter (and Lieutenant of MegaForce) C. Robert Cargill, for example, is an avid Warhammer player, and has been happilly married for decades now. Other famous and semi-famous players include Henry Cavill, David Tennant, Brian May of Queen, Robin Williams and others.
Most of them, I might add, are also devoted gamers – several of them have custom built gaming PCs.
Then there’s the fact that video games have quite literally never been more popular. The idea that gaming is some secret shame that folks are looked down on for enjoying is so far out of date that I wonder if you’ve been locked in a bunker for the last twenty years. I mean, the show that everyone’s talking about right now is an adaptation of a popular PS3 exclusive.
(I might point out that we’re also in the middle of a tabletop gaming Renaissance, with more RPG systems than any before, live-play Twitch streams setting records, multiple animated series based off of other people’s D&D campaigns AND a movie being released in less than a month.)
You’re reacting, not to actual people, but to the people in your head that you (and others) invented to get mad at. You are, in a very literal sense, hurting your own feelings, for no real reason except to hurt them. You even say this yourself: “The fact that I’m enjoying a thing makes me feel like I’m perpetuating a negative stereotype of both autistic people and virgins.”
Those are your words, my dude, not the words of, say, a woman who was confused why you would feel ashamed about something you enjoy. In fact, as the reasonable and intelligent person you are, I would think that encountering a woman in the real world who doesn’t understand why you’d label something you enjoy as “your bag of shame” would be proof that maybe you’re dealing with beliefs that are both wildly out of date and weren’t even correct back then.
You’re also working from your own ideas about sex, sexuality or even what makes sex good. People who have had hundreds of partners aren’t automatically sex-gods; they’re just folks who’ve figured out how to get people in bed. I know people whose sexual history dwarfs mine… but can only sleep with someone once, because they’re a s--tty, selfish lover.
On the other hand, sex with a virgin can be great; all that’s required is the right partner, a willingness to listen and to pay attention without letting one’s ego get in the way. And while you might – and I stress might – have a harder time finding a one-night stand, the likelier scenario of your first time would be in the context of a relationship… and in that situation, you’re going to be dealing with someone who knows your a virgin and doesn’t find it to be a turn-off or a hindrance. Assuming, of course, that you actually, y’know. Let go of your self-imposed shame and accept the possibility that you’re not the stereotype 4chan insists you are.
And ultimately, that’s the issue you’re facing: you’re letting other people dictate your identity to you. The things you list are only stereotypes in part because they’re self-imposed. Who you are as a person is a status that’s always in flux; you may always be autistic, but that hardly means you’re doomed to be a shut-in who can’t operate in society. It just means that you’re neurodivergent, and some things affect you differently than they would affect others. Your perceptions of the world are different and the way you relate to things may be different… but different isn’t the same as “bad”, nor is it the same as “repugnant” or “unf--kable”.
You’ve heard the same voices saying the same thing so loudly that it’s drowned out everyone else, and you’ve mistaken that for THE TRVTH, as handed down on carved tablets. But the actual truth is that being autistic is one detail in who you are, not the sum totality of it. Being a gamer doesn’t make you weird or unf--kable, it’s one of the most common pastimes on the planet. And being a virgin doesn’t mean anything other than “you haven’t had this particular experience yet”. It has nothing to do with your value as a person, your desirability or your capability of finding a loving and satisfying relationship.
The only person who cares this much about whether you’re a virgin or not is… you. And if you do, in your travels through the physical world, meet someone who’s s--tty about your being a virgin? Well then all that’s happened is that you met a s--tty person with s--tty opinions. S--tty people exist everywhere. But they’re not the majority or even a plurality.
If you meet someone who actually says that they’d never sleep with a virgin because X, Y or Z? Well, great, you’ve met someone you would never want to have sex with in the first place, because why would you want to bang someone who was that judgmental or ignorant? That’s a them problem, not a you problem.
The only you problem here is your own self-image, the identity that you’ve allowed others to create for you. Cut those voices out of your life by not giving them access. Close your accounts so that you’re not tempted to go back. Let those communities go; they do you far more harm than good. And once you actually start dealing with people in person, in the real world, you’ll see how much of what you’re fearing are the results of other people’s beliefs, not reality.
Good luck.
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