DEAR DR. NERDLOVE: First I want to thank you because your blog is epic, it helps me a lot! I’m currently trying to be the best person I can be and thanks to you I improve a lot! So first: Thank you very much Doc!
Second: I have this “problem” but in reality I know it’s not a “Problem”. Let me explain. I know that, for cultural reasons, men have always to be the ones who made the first move. It was always like that. However, I find this kinda “unfair”; why are we the ones who made all the effort first?
I mean, we don’t have also the right to be seduced by a person? I never in my life receive a compliment by a woman, yet I’m here telling any girl I dig that they are “amazing”. They are, they truly are, but you know, they never said anything to me. Don’t get me wrong, I know I’m not hot enough to get compliments on the daily.. but.. well sometimes is nice to be appreciated. The thing is, I feel that men are always the ones who made the effort, women just sit there and choose the best. I know that what I thought, it’s only my perception of things but.. a quick reality check tells me two things:
1. There is no heterosexual male escorts (because men are not desirable enough/or in demand to made this a business/or basically why a women will pay for a man if she is lusted for by them on the daily?)
2. Online Dating proves that even if we restrict the cultural factor , men still send the first message
So I guess my perception is not that “wrong”. Doc can you help me with this? I really want to stop thinking like that, but I feel that men are in a huge disadvantage when it comes to dating
Have a nice day Doc !
-Just a Thinker
DEAR JUST A THINKER: OK, as tempting as it is to just throw this out like red meat to wolves in the comments, I want to actually dig into this. Because hey, you’re not entirely wrong. It is kinda unfair that men, culturally, are supposed to make the first move. And yeah, it is nice to be appreciated.
The thing is though, is that you’re asking the wrong question. The question you should be asking is why it’s been this way for so long. Because hey, guess why men are “supposed” to do all the initiating? Because it’s a cultural norm that, even in the year of our Lord Bruce Dickinson 2022, it’s a norm that’s still vigorously enforced. And the people who enforce that particular rule, both directly and indirectly?
It’s other men. Not women. Men. Sing with me now, if you’re a regular reader you already know the words: it’s a case of toxic masculinity ruining things for everyone again.
Now, there’re a few things you’re missing in this particular equation, JAT, that might help you understand the dynamics here. To start with, the modern idea of dating and courtship is very recent. Even as late as the 19th century, the idea of marrying for love was seen as absurd, even foolish. Marriage, especially for members of the middle and upper classes, was more about contract negotiations and the transfer of wealth and property, rather than about love and romance. For women in particular, marriage was as much about survival as it was about anything else; in western countries, women having full financial autonomy was uncommon at best and literally illegal at worst. S--t, in the United States, women couldn’t have their own credit cards or bank accounts without a spouse or parent’s approval until the Equal Credit Opportunity Act of 1974. Similarly, women’s sexual autonomy was severely restricted. Women didn’t have full and free access to contraception – even if they were married – until Griswold v. Connecticut in 1965, and abortion was likewise restricted until Roe v. Wade in 1971 and, as you may have noticed, Christians and conservatives have been trying to reverse that ever since.
And oh look, they finally got their wish and now they’re coming for gay marriage, interracial marriage and gay rights too.
Up until then, love, sex and dating had – and continue to have – much greater impacts on women’s lives than men’s. The advent of free access to birth control – including abortion – and financial autonomy meant that relationships weren’t a matter of life or death, nor having to weigh the risk between the sex they wanted to have against the likelihood of an unwanted pregnancy and what that would do to them.
I might point out that getting pregnant outside of wedlock – or sometimes even while married – were grounds for expulsion from school, getting fired from work and in many cases, getting locked up in what were euphemistically called “maternity homes”. And hey, that was if you were lucky enough to be in the United States. In Ireland, for example, the Magdalene Laundries – where unwed or undesirable mothers were literally enslaved by the Catholic Church – were in operation until 1996.
That history alone is a significant part of why women were expected to be passive actors in the mating dance. But even now, decades later, cultural norms continue to influence and control who makes the first move. A lot of men are deeply uncomfortable with the idea of women having sexual autonomy and sexual agency; you just have to look at the Fresh-n-Fit idiots to see how much they freak out at the idea of a woman expressing interest in someone – either first or at all. Look at how badly Ben Shapiro freaked out over Cardi B. and Megan Thee Stallion singing W.A.P. Or, hell, the number of fascist thought leaders who think women being anything other than TradWives is somehow a violation of the natural order of the universe. And while those may be at the extreme end of the bell curve, they’re by no means the only ones who push back against women expressing themselves sexually.
And that’s before we get into the number of men who freak out when women make the first move. Not just because they believe in a deeply conservative idea about gender roles, but because they assume that a woman making the first move is either a trap, or a sign that she’s much more interested than she actually is.
This, incidentally, also affects who gets compliments. Men will compliment women they don’t know, because they know the risks to them are very, very low. A woman complimenting a man, especially a man she doesn’t know, runs the risk of him assuming far, far more about her level of interest and may respond in ways she would not appreciate.
Now, even if you take the question of ‘who initiates the encounter’ out of the equation entirely – just taking it as writ that men are always supposed to make the first move – it’s still not the case that women aren’t putting in equal amounts of effort too. The difference is that many men don’t recognize what they’re doing as part of the work. Anyone who’s ever complained about how long women take to get ready before going out already knows just how much work goes into, say, women making themselves look good before leaving the house. Contrary to what you may think – especially considering the relative paucity of male skin-care, make-up or other forms of grooming prior to going out – getting dressed up, doing their hair and putting on make-up takes work. All you have to do is look at make-up YouTube and TikTok and see what goes into even the “no make-up” look, never mind things like contouring.
Similarly, while they may not be making the approach, that hardly means that women are just sitting around like taxis lined up at the taxi stand, waiting for someone to raise their hand and call them over. There’s a lot involved in being approachable, in catching someone’s eye and sending “come over here and talk to me” signals without coming across as too forward – lest the guy think she’s a slut, heaven forfend. Not to mention the work it often takes to keep their interest, keep the conversation going, be just enough to keep someone’s interest without giving the “wrong idea”, and so forth and so on. It’s a s--tload of work, just in the “traditional” dating mode.
But let’s take your specific examples.If we start with the lack of heterosexual male escorts, then there’re a few things you haven’t considered. The first is that there’re more straight men doing sex-work than you realize. You may not know this because, hey, you’re a straight dude; you’re not exactly looking for another straight guy to suck your d--k for money.
(More on that in a second).
But they do, in fact, exist, in many, many different forms. One of the most obvious examples would be the host clubs in Japan, where Japanese women go to pay for getting attention and care from attractive men and may even pay for dates outside of the club. Even if we leave out straight men with OnlyFans accounts, dancers at male strip-clubs and the like, many of the male escorts who service other men are, in fact, bisexual or straight guys doing what’s known as “gay for pay”. More men are willing to buy sex or pay sex workers, yes… but, again, it’s only recently that people were willing to even consider the idea that women like sex, never mind would want to be willing to pay for it. But they do, in fact, exist and their female clients are often older, inexperienced women who struggle finding sex.
(Yes, women do, in fact, struggle with finding sex partners, just like men do.)
Honestly, it doesn’t take much Googling to find a host of interviews and Reddit AMAs from male escorts who serve a female clientele; you’ll find plenty of examples of this.
It’s also worth remembering that sex has entirely different risks for women than it does for men. Women are at greater general risk for sexual violence than men are, including sex workers. Cis women, trans men non-binary folks with vaginas are at risk for unwanted pregnancy, where cis men aren’t, and it’s easier for folks with vaginas to contract STIs than folks with penises. And, of course, at the base level, there’s the classic orgasm gap; men in general are more or less guaranteed to orgasm during a sexual encounter whereas a full third of women won’t orgasm during sex with a man. Hiring an escort’s a lovely idea, but unless you can find a review site for women looking for male escorts, you’re gonna have a hard time knowing if this is going to be an incredible experience or a mediocre-at-best waste of money.
Your second example is, quite frankly, completely wrong. There is no excising the cultural factor, because culture follows us everywhere. We don’t cease to live in a society just because we’re communicating through Tinder instead of chatting someone up at the bar. The same cultural and social mores that affect us in the physical world are still in force online, whether on Twitter or Hinge.
So, TL;DR: yeah, it kinda sucks that things are so tilted towards men doing the initiating or expressing interest. But it’s tilted that way because of toxic and restrictive norms surrounding male and female sexuality and literal generations of cultural upbringing, not because women “have it easier” or because they’re lazy. If you want things to be different – and it certainly sounds like you do – then start helping to create a world that’s more equitable, safer and welcoming for people of all genders, instead of assuming that it’s just that women don’t feel like putting the effort in.
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