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Do I Need To Friend-Zone My Wife?

Ask Dr. Nerdlove by by Harris O'Malley
by Harris O'Malley
Ask Dr. Nerdlove | November 2nd, 2018

DEAR DR. NERDLOVE: Long story short: we’ve been married 17 years, dated for about ten before that. Sex and kissing and everything else was, frankly, amazing in the first decade or so and, if I’m being honest, it was a strong motivator – but not exclusively – for getting married (I kind of think it always helps if you can make your partner come and they seem to enjoy being with you in bed).

Now, we hit a rough patch – mostly down to me being an a

hole with money – but we fixed things up, we had kids (and yes, I did my bit with through the night feeds and looking after them so my wife could rest), we got on with life and over time, sex dried up and became, at best, a monthly thing. Now, for a while, that didn’t bother me – we were busy, I always assumed we’d get back to where we were – but for the last few years it has really started to bother me.

I’ve brought it up and I’ve been told that she’s just not feeling that much into sex over the last number of years, which while annoying as hell, I can appreciate. I don’t want someone having sex just for the sake of shutting up their partner or for a quiet life. I’ve offered to try and do different things, all rebuffed.

Equally, when I’ve suggested things like we have a night for sex once a week, I’m told that removes the spontaneity of it, tried your tips for date nights and getting the heart racing and it was pretty much scorned as daft, I’ve tried romantic trips away, we have a good supply of babysitters, I’ve suggested that we go to counseling (that was rejected).

(Even when we do have sex, it’s me doing all the work, which again makes me think it’s only being done to shut me up.)

Now, we do do stuff together – though the wife’s preference is for going out with pals, workmates or to the gym (one thing that really annoyed me is when I suggested early morning sex, was told she would be too tired and then she started going to early morning gym classes) – and when she’s with her pals she’s more relaxed than with me (which can often feel more like a night with me, her and her phone, which you can rarely ask what she’s looking at as that bugs her though she has always maintained that she isn’t and hasn’t had any affairs).

So, as we have kids and as we aren’t screaming at each other (though we do often have very different points of view and this is something I’ve noticed more of later) and, to be honest, she is someone I like having in my life, there’s an impasse. It’s a relationship with no sex, no kissing (I could be standing in between the children and she will kiss them and not me) but I can’t see she’s done anything wrong (if anything, I feel like the a

hole here), so it very much feels like a friendship – or housemates – in many ways, which I’m not mad about but it is what it is.

So, the question is this: how do I friend-zone someone that I live with and find incredibly sexy and attractive because that may be the main way to save this relationship. I also need to work out a way of framing this relationship so that I’m not spending hours per day thinking about it and getting frustrated by it, because that – if nothing else – isn’t doing me any favours mentally, so friend-zoning may help and partially stop this marriage feeling so lonely.

Sexless in Shoreditch

DEAR SEXLESS IN SHOREDITCH: Whenever someone asks me about why their partner is no longer interested in sex, my first question is almost always “Do they see this as a problem?”

This is an important question to answer because ultimately, it’ll tell you what’s going on. After all, a lot of things can crater a person’s sex-drive: self-esteem issues surrounding age or weight, stress at work or at home, a lack of sleep, depression, certain medications… the list goes on. When you’re talking about a long term relationship, however, there tend to be two primary culprits. The first is boredom and familiarity; humans are novelty-seeking creatures, and even the most passionate relationship will cool over time when the sex is by rote – at the same time, in the same positions, etc.

The second is they’re not interested in sex with you.

And as much as I hate to say it, it sounds like the latter is your problem. It’s one thing if your wife was being an equal partner in trying to get your sex-life back on track. It’s another entirely when it seems like she’s just plain not interested in trying to fix things. And that’s a problem.

Part of what make relationships work are the offers we make to our partners – what Dr. John Gottman calls “emotional bids”. That is, when we suggest something like a date night, we’re making an offer or bid; we’re saying “I would like to do something fun and romantic with you”. The way our partners respond is to either turn towards it or to turn away from it. Agreeing and planning a date night – or suggesting another idea – turns towards the bid and, by extension, us. Ignoring the bid or refusing it, on the other hand, is turning away from it.

That’s what it sounds like your wife’s been doing, SiS. She’s turning away from your repeated emotional bids to work on both your sex life and your relationship. That…. isn’t good. Wanting to go out with friends is one thing; having a life outside of the relationship is actually good for a relationship’s longevity. The rest, however, is incredibly concerning. That lack of affection and the disregard she’s offering for both your feelings and your attempts to work on the relationship are danger signs, indicators that this relationship has deeper problems than just mismatched libidos. The fact that she’s actively disinterested in even going for counseling is even more troubling; that sounds like someone who’s checked out of the relationship entirely and is either coasting along or waiting for it to fall apart on it’s own.

You clearly want to try to save things, which is good. But I’m not sure your wife feels the same way. The best thing you can do is get ready to have an awkward conversation with her about what exactly is going on. You need to be willing to explain not just that you’re sexually frustrated, but how this makes you feel – like you’re alienated from your wife while she’s not interested in you or your relationship. You need to tell her why you feel this way, what you think will change (for the better) if you two work things out and what you’re willing to do. But then you also have to listen to what she has to say and why she feels the way she does. She might still be harboring resentments from that rough patch you mentioned that were never properly treated. There may be other issues from your marriage that’ve been bubbling under the surface that have never come up.

Or she may just be done. Done with sex, done with sex with you, or done with the relationship entirely.

The only way to know is to ask her. And then you have a choice to make: do you continue this as a companionate marriage or do you end things? Do you transition to an open relationship in order to make it possible to stay married? Do you have enough mutual respect and affection for one another that you can continue to live together as co-parents, if not lovers, or is it better for everyone involved – including your children – to start looking into a divorce?

Unfortunately, I don’t have answers for you; you’re going to have to make those decisions yourself. But it all has to start with that conversation. Otherwise, the only place left for this to go is downhill.

Good luck, man.

DEAR DR. NERDLOVE: Since overcoming my social anxiety I’ve been going to Meetups for millennials, festivals, volunteering activities, bars and clubs looking to meet new people and new connections, and it’s been great so far in building platonic relationships with women as well as other men.

However, I’ve noticed that in the sexual/romantic department, I can’t seem to attract women my own age. However, I do seem to draw in women over 45. I’ve had women as old as 65 in bars approach me and ask me dance, and tell how adorable I am. One night in a club woman in her late 40s to early 50s asked me to dance while her husband was asleep in their hotel room above the club. Another time woman in her 50s asked if she could sit on my lap. I’ve NEVER had women my own age approach me in this way. My friends think it’s hilarious because it brings out the inevitable ”cougar” jokes. And in casual conversation older women compliment my looks and tell me how women my own age should be lining up for me. While I find it flattering and somewhat amusing, it frustrates me and hurts my self-esteem that I don’t get same attention from my preferred age group. It’s like I’m sexually invisible to women my own age. I NEVER notice millennial women showing interest in me, they never approach me, ask me to dance or even give off any body language that you frequently write about that invites me to approach them. No eye contact, nothing. It’s like I’m sexually invisible or undesirable to women my own age. I dress to impress, I have a great sense of style, wear clothes that fit, I take care of my body, and I have good hygiene, so I’m not sure what’s going wrong. I just feel like I have more in common with women my own age. If it was my body language then wouldn’t that stop the older women from approaching me as well?

Full disclosure: I’m a millennial, and I’ll be 31 next month, and my preferred dating age range consists of women between ages 24 and 36, and I’ve never had a relationship. I’ve met a lot of women my own age from these new social activities and I’ve had great conversations with them, and they always express interest in things I’m passionate about, and they say I’m a fun and interesting person to talk to but they never show any interest in taking things to that other ”step.” I’ve known exactly TWO women over the past four years who’ve made offers, but later they admitted the offers were tongue in cheek.

I don’t ask them out because I’m worried that I’m over-perceiving their interest me, or mistaking friendliness for romantic or sexual interest. I read a recent study from UT Austin that looked at single straight millennial women’s comfort when interacting with single straight men vs gay men. The study involved 153 women and all of them showed anxiety when meeting these men for the first time until the men revealed their sexual orientations. The women who were paired with gay men opened up immediately after the men revealed they were gay, whereas the women with straight men showed a lot of discomfort after those men revealed their orientation. One of the authors said that ”single straight women keep their friendliness in check when meeting single straight men for the first because they’re wary of men wanting more than a platonic relationship them.” So that just added to my reluctance to ask out millennial women in my social circle because I’m concerned that will put them off. Or am I just overthinking this?

Then there’s the approaching thing. My feminist lady friends have told me NOT to approach women at parties or bars with dating on my mind because that means I’m sexualizing them and only going by their looks. They tell me to wait until women approach me first. Like I said, that NEVER happens and has never happened. (Except for the older women.)

Another disclosure: I’m completely bald, so I wonder if that factors in. Maybe young women my age think I look too old for them?? Or is it because they have more inhibitions than older women?

I’m not going to use online dating, especially not Tinder or Bumble because, like I said, I’m bald, and I’m only 5’9. Online dating will just hurt my self esteem even further.

So is there a way to make women my own age approach me, and is my preferred age bracket ageist?

Sincerely, 

Younger Than I Look

DEAR YOUNGER THAN I LOOK: A couple things, YTIL.

First of all, the fact that you’re getting that much attention from women is a good thing, regardless of their age. The fact that women are approaching you is a sign that you’ve made quite a bit of progress.

But the reason why these older women are approaching you is because society still tells women that men are supposed to be the aggressors while women are supposed to be the passive recipients. Even today, women who shuck off gender roles tend to be viewed with suspicion (at best) by guys. Those more mature women you’re running into? They’ve reached an age where they have realized that they’re out of f

ks to give and they’re ready to toss social convention out the window. Part of why women reach their sexual peak in their 30s and 40s has far less to do with biology and far more to do with sociology. By the time women reach their 30s, they tend to be more in tune with themselves, more sexually confident and less willing to put up with the BS song and dance routine that still often defines modern dating.

So don’t take their interest as something unusual or unfortunate; it’s a positive sign of your progress.

But let’s talk about the women you’re interested in. I suspect the issue is less that you’re invisible and more that you don’t believe in your own attractiveness. You drop a lot of indicators about how you feel about your looks in your letter – especially your concerns about being 5’9″ and bald. You don’t believe that women are interested in you and so you round those indicators down. Case in point: you talk about the fact that you’re worried that you’re overestimating their interest and that you assume that you’re mistaking friendliness for interest.

That right there is the problem: you’re talking yourself out of believing that they might be interested in you because, well, you don’t believe it’s possible that they might like you. You’re ignoring potential signs because they they didn’t hop into your lap and start to wiggle. Which, honestly, most women aren’t gonna do, regardless of age.

The thing is, you’re falling victim to a lot of confirmation bias here, all based around the idea that you’re inherently unattractive and that your interest in someone is an unwanted burden that you’re dropping on them like a cat presenting them with a dead mouse. This means that you’re taking the wrong lessons from a lot of places, including your friends. Take the advice about not approaching women at bars and parties: this is bad advice. Bars and parties are explicitly social spaces, places where people go to see and be seen, to meet, mix and mingle. It’s understood that at parties and bars (assuming we’re not talking about things like professional networking events) that people are going to be social, to talk to strangers and possibly even strike up a relationship with them. That doesn’t mean EVERYONE is going to be interested in talking to strangers, but it’s part of the context of the scene. And the fact is that humans are visual creatures. Men and women both size people up by a multitude of factors, including their looks. Appearance counts towards initial attraction (though, critically, it becomes less important over time as you get to know them). You can’t tell that somebody’s a Rhodes Scholar by the way they dress, after all. Treating them as a sexual object is something to avoid – they’re a person – but the fact that you find them sexually attractive based on how they look? That’s fine and normal.

But like I said: this is confirmation bias. You’re taking the wrong lessons (and worse advice) from things, misinterpreting conclusions and ultimately cutting yourself off from potential dates and relationships. You don’t want to approach people and you also don’t want to do online dating. So… what’s left? Because sitting around and doing nothing clearly isn’t working for you either.

So you’re average height for a guy and bald. That’s fine. Neither of these is a dealbreaker, nor does it mean that you’re cursed by the universe. Some women may not date you because you’re bald, sure, but there will always be women who won’t date you for any number of reasons. Nobody out there – not Ryan Gosling, not Michael B. Jordan, not Lewis Tan – is going to appeal to everyone. Being bald is a polarizing look… and that’s a good thing. It means that the people who are into you are going to be really into you. As I’ve said before: you don’t want to be everybody’s cup of tea, you want to be a few people’s shot of whiskey. You’re better to find the people who crave you, not multitudes who think you’re ok.

You have to be willing to accept and believe in your own value and to put yourself out there. Stop talking yourself out of success, stop overthinking things and start being an active participant in your own love life.

Good luck.

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Can You Cure Commitment-Phobia?

Ask Dr. Nerdlove by by Harris O'Malley
by Harris O'Malley
Ask Dr. Nerdlove | November 1st, 2018

DEAR DR. NERDLOVE: Appreciate the site, and your responses to so many of us trying to figure this whole “desire for romance” thing out. It’s not easy, so thank you.

My question to you regards the idea of “commitment-phobia”. I put it in quotation marks because, while I had heard the term before, I never really knew there was a pattern of behavior associated with the phrase. I just assumed it was what people told themselves/others when they were rejected by someone they fancied so as to alleviate the sting of that rejection. Plus, I know it’s not an actual, clinical diagnosis with criteria that need to be met and so forth so I never really thought it could be a real thing.

Until it happened to me.

I was telling my buddy that the great woman (we’ll call her E) I spent two months with abruptly ended everything and pulled the “I’m not ready for a relationship” card (another phrase I never take at face value, to be honest) out of nowhere. My buddy was aware of how quickly things between myself and E escalated, and upon hearing of her very sudden and unexpected departure, said “yeah dude. She’s afraid of commitment.” After telling him I thought that was bulls

t, he went on to explain that commitment-phobia unfolds exactly how things unfolded with E and I. Commitment-phobes are super, crazy hot for you at the beginning, but the second they feel like a real relationship is forming, with obligations and expectations they’ll need to meet, they leave. They’re terrified of these obligations, these expectations, so goes the theory of commitment-phobia.

I started reading what the internet had to say about commitment-phobia and was floored. Blown away by how SPECIFIC these sites/authors were relaying E’s behavior. Our relationship was textbook commitment-phobia, come to find. We met through a friend of a friend and immediately hit it off. Numbers were exchanged that first night, flirted for about a month before our schedules allowed us to see each other again, and we were off and running. Text messages throughout the day, staying with each other two, three nights a week, dinners cooked, friends met and sex, sex, sex. Each and every time we were alone at either my place or hers, it went down. And SHE initiated virtually all of these things. I never said no to her, despite thinking once or twice that we were moving pretty fast, because I was absolutely crazy about her. She was amazing. We had “the talk” two weeks in, where she told me she thought about some reasons she shouldn’t move things forward with me but that she ultimately decided she had to be with me, she felt for me that much. “There’s no way I can not be in a relationship with you” she said, verbatim. I was absolutely over the moon. Couldn’t have been happier to hear her say that, I was head over heels for this woman.

So, this goes on for two months until one Monday night (she always came over on Mondays after her dance class and stayed the night with me; again, we definitely had a routine of shared time down by this point) she arrives without her overnight bag. I ask why she doesn’t have it, and she tells me we need to talk. My heart immediately sunk. Those are never good words to hear from your woman and sure enough, she did what everyone does when they tell you they “need to talk”. She dumped me. And did it by explaining how perfect a guy I am and that “this isn’t some Tinder fling with you, I think about you way too much, all day, and I can’t have that in my life right now. I’m way too busy starting my career and I’ve been through a lot of changes in life recently. You’re such a good, genuine person and I can’t give you what I know you deserve right now, so I have to end this.”

Crushed, broken-hearted and dejected I told her I wished she felt differently, that I would hope this could be something we actually talked about before she made such a big decision, but her mind was made up. So, I told her how much I cared about her and how awesome I thought our connection was one last time and then let her go.

But she didn’t let me go. Again, according to the patterns of behavior associated with commitment-phobia I read so much about, the commitment-phobe will end the relationship only until the anxiety they feel over being in a relationship and all the expectations with it subside, and then they’ll be back in touch. And E was. Not specifically to get back together, but to ask questions that didn’t need asking, to make comments that didn’t need to be made and just overall being unable to go without being in touch for more than two or three weeks at a time. I ultimately had to tell her not to be in touch with me for any reason, no matter how big or small she thought it was unless it was to discuss the rekindling of our intimate and romantic relationship.

To sum things up, and my question to you, is what I should be making of all of this and are the red flags described in the ideas of commitment-phobia something I need to pay closer attention should I find myself in a similar situation in the future? “If it feels great and is moving quickly because two people legitimately have deep feelings for one another, and they realize this soon, then SHUT IT DOWN because one of you is a commitment-phobe”. That just sounds crazy.

Or could E have been legitimately honest when she said she wasn’t ready for a relationship when she did so much, and went so far out of her way to make me think she did, and that she was into me and was in it for the long haul? If that’s the case, how is it possible the idea of her not being ready for a relationship only occurred to her after making it a point to spend as much time with me as she could for two whole months? She’s a mature, adult woman who is HIGHLY educated (38 years old with a Ph.D. in psychology FFS). How could she NOT have known she wasn’t ready for a relationship when we flirted for a month and then she solidified everything herself by bringing up “the talk” and telling me she had to be in a relationship with me?

I’ve had my fair share of experiences with women, I know when they pull the “I’m not ready” card it’s because they’re just not into you, but NOTHING about E’s behavior made me think she wasn’t anything but crazy about me.

What am I missing here?

Signed, 

Victim of Commitment-phobia?

DEAR VICTIM OF COMMITMENT-PHOBIA: Funny thing about women, VCP: sometimes (many times, really) when they say “I’m not ready”, they mean it. It’s not just a polite way of shutting things down and rejecting you, it’s that they really and truly feel like they can’t commit to you. More often than not – and in my experience, the commitment-phobes fall into this category – the issue has far more to do with a state of anxiety than any actual, logical issue.

Now where this anxiety comes from is up for debate. Some people who are commitment-phobic have had traumatic experiences in their relationships and so are afraid of being hurt again. Some have a classic anxious attachment style and start to feel anxiety when they feel that their needs aren’t being met or that their partners are really looking for an excuse to end the relationship. And still others have issues surrounding their own sense of deservedness; they don’t feel that they’re “worthy” of love and so they freak out when they’re in a position to actually be in a relationship.

So why does people like this fall in love so hard, so quickly? Because they crave that connection. They want that relationship, they want love so badly they can taste it. And that feeling is intoxicating. It’s easy to give into the rush, especially if you don’t have much actual relationship experience. But that rush comes with an equally powerful crash. Maybe they’ve experienced that rush before, in a relationship that fell apart and so they’re also afraid of the crash. Maybe they’re terrified by the intensity of their own feelings and worry that this means they’re making a mistake. They could worry that the intensity and the pace means that something is wrong, that this is a bad sign. Or they could worry that the person they’re falling for is falling for an illusion, a mistaken idea of who they are and will inevitably be hurt and angry when they see the reality.

Or they could very well be the sort of person who sabotages their own relationships because they don’t feel like they have a right to be happy.

But what about your ex? How could someone so smart and accomplished and presumably self-aware not realize she’s not ready for a relationship? Well, because anxiety isn’t rational, dude. She very well may have hoped that she was ready only to have her jerk-brain kick in and smack the blinders off. She may have legitimately thought that this time, this time it could work, only to fall into those same self-destructive patterns. Or this may just be how she works and she hasn’t processed that this is her relationship style: burning like a bonfire, but burning out just as quickly.

And you? How can you navigate this scenario if it comes up again?

Well, to start with: don’t play along. You can tap the brakes just as easily as she can. Things may be feel amazing and intense and you two may feel as though you have a passion and a love that nobody has ever experienced before… but that doesn’t mean that you have to go full-tilt boogie with it. You can say “hey, this feels incredible and I love what we have, but I want to slow things down.” You can make the conscious choice to dial things back a little, if only to make sure you’re not rushing into things and letting the joy of limerence overwhelm the rest of you. Wanting to slow things down, not commit early or making the conscious choice to NOT see each other every other day can help give you the breathing room to be a little more rational and less reactive. Having that breathing room can also help someone with anxiety issues get enough space and perspective that they can try to ease their brain-weasels. If they don’t feel that things are rushing to an inevitable, inexorable conclusion, it’s a lot easier to take a breath and a beat and talk themselves off the ledge; doubly so if they can open up to you about their anxiety.

So when things are feeling intense and rushed, then have a variation of that Defining The Relationship talk. Share that you are thrilled by everything going on between the two of you, but you want to slow things down a bit so the two of you can catch your breath and savor it all. Choosing to slow down won’t hurt or diminish your feelings for one another, but it can help everyone keep their head at a time when you very much want to lose it.

Good luck.

DEAR DR. NERDLOVE: I’ve been nursing a crush on a member of my stunt acting team for a while now (yeah, that’s a wild intro. I swear I wouldn’t mention it if it weren’t relevant). We definitely flirt, but in that way that actors do that may or may not mean anything about our mutual interest in anything more than flirting.

The thing is, on top of being my coworker of sorts, he also has talked when we’ve gone out in a group for drinks after practice about not wanting to have sex before marriage (he wears a purity ring and everything). That’s not something that necessarily bothers me in a potential partner in its most literal definition, but it’s not an attitude I share in my own sexual practices. Mostly, it feels like it has the potential to carry a lot of additional clauses that DO bother me, like wanting to get married pretty quickly or not wanting to do anything sexual at all before marriage. It’s just enough to make the prospect of asking him out feel extra daunting, because I don’t know how much this difference in our personal practices and boundaries around sex translates to a difference in ideas about how dating would even work.

And of course, there are concerns about messing up our work dynamic, particularly in an environment where we need to be comfortable working one-on-one in pretty intimate situations (have you ever faked strangling someone to death? Good Lord). Are there too many complications to try to pursue this beyond enjoying a no-strings work flirt? Or am I just overcomplicating the situation?

Help!

Confused in California

DEAR A CONFUSED IN CALIFORNIA: You’re overcomplicating things CiC. You haven’t just put the cart before the horse, the horse hasn’t even been foaled yet. You’re anticipating a whole host of issues that not only haven’t come up, but aren’t likely to come up for quite some time. You’re still working on whether there’s more to your interacting beyond just flirting for the sake of flirting and yet you’re already thinking about what his no-sex-before-marriage stance might mean for your relationship. That’s quite a few steps beyond where you are at this moment CiC.

Now speaking for myself, that whole purity-ring/virginity-pledge business would be a disqualifier. Sexual compatibility is a vital part of a relationship’s potential and there really isn’t any way to gauge that without, y’know, having sex. You can talk it through all you like, but it’s all theoretical until the rubbers hit the road (as it were), especially when one of you has no experience. The worst time to discover that the two of you have incompatible needs is after you’ve thrown thousands of dollars and legal agreements at the relationship.

But that’s just me. Maybe you feel like there’s enough there that you’d be able to woo that ring straight off his finger. Or maybe you feel like it might be worth exploring if he’s the sort of virginity-pledger that believes in God’s Loophole.

Regardless: those are problems for further down the line than where you two currently stand. Right now, you have a fun, flirty relationship. If that no-sex-before-marriage pledge is a dealbreaker for you – and it certainly sounds like it is – then the best thing is to keep it as a strictly sport-flirting kind of relationship and save flirting with intent for someone who you potentially have an actual future with.

Good luck.

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What Are The Rules of Being The “Other Woman”?

Ask Dr. Nerdlove by by Harris O'Malley
by Harris O'Malley
Ask Dr. Nerdlove | October 31st, 2018

DEAR DR. NERDLOVE: This past week, I went to a very popular vacation spot and ended up running into a minor internet celebrity. He was there with another guy I recognized from his videos and his girlfriend. I tweeted afterward thanking them, and the next day, Minor Internet Celebrity DM’d me.

At first, he simply said he’d like to hang out more and that the next time we’re in each other’s part of the state (about 6 hours by car, 1 by plane), we should hang out. I didn’t have time yet to respond when he clarified that he and his girlfriend are in an open relationship, and would I be interested in going on a date with him sometime?

I said I would, and that I’d let him know when we are in the same area. His Twitter and videos are super feminist, and I am fond of the academic and non-pretentious quality of his work.

That said, I have three questions for you:

1. What are the rules of being the “other person” in an open relationship? I know it’s just one date (heck, he didn’t even say that he wants to sleep with me or anything like that), but while I’m a big fan of his, I want his girlfriend to be very much ok with everything.

2. Do you have any advice for a fan going on a date with someone they personally consider to be a celebrity? He seems super feminist, but also, but stories like with Aziz Ansari are still very much on my mind, and if this doesn’t go well (not necessarily sexual assault), I don’t want to hate him.

3. Although it’s the thing that’s not allowed to be said, I am a very conventionally attractive young woman. It’s rare that I don’t get some kind of comment about it when I’m in public. He is less conventionally attractive, however, I find his personality very attractive. If I did not already know who he was, I probably would not have agreed to go on a date with him, however, I’m trying to branch out and give people a chance this year. Do you have any advice for someone in this position?

I’ll add that although I look the way I do and am in my mid-20s, I’ve never really had a relationship before. I went to a famously mostly-girls college, and have been told that I come off as very intimidating to most men (I guess fangirling kinda removes the intimidation factor), and when they approach me, relationships are just SO not on my mind that I usually turn them down. I know I’m probably over thinking all of this, but I’m something of a perfectionist and really want to make sure this (if/when it even happens) goes well.

Thanks!

Third Person Singular

DEAR THIRD PERSON SINGULAR: There’re a few things I would suggest as best practices, TPS.

First is that I’d suggest a little due diligence. A lot of folks in open relationships are socially monogamous – that is, they don’t talk about about being open, publicly – for a number of reasons. These can range from things like avoiding familial or social conflict to just preferring to keep their business private… especially if they’re in the public eye. But there’re also people who’ll put themselves out there as being open when they actually aren’t. And while every couple has their own arrangements, from sharing of every single detail to a don’t ask, don’t tell policy, it may not be a bad idea to at least inquire if you can double-check with his girlfriend that this is on the up and up. And while they may have a DADT thing going on, the way he reacts to this entirely reasonable request will at least give you some indications as to whether this is legit.

Second: they may be a minor celebrity, but they’re also a person and – as we’ve seen, people are flawed and complicated. It’s good that he’s a positive person and feminist, but even people who know better make mistakes at times.

So while he’s got his bona fides in his videos and Twitter, don’t let those make you second guess how you feel. Be willing to trust your instincts. Even if you’re feeling a bit fan-girl-y, take things at the pace that you’re comfortable with. Remember: for whatever level of Internet fame he may have, he’s a regular person too; you may admire him but that doesn’t mean that you need to prioritize his approval over your own sense of security. You’re allowed to set your limits and boundaries where you choose and to enforce them as you choose. And if things start to set off your Spidey-sense, don’t feel as though you can’t say “Hey, listen, I’m gonna peace out now.”

Also, you may also want to consider doing a pre-date date as well – a short meetup for coffee or frozen yogurt, where you can decide whether you’re feeling enough chemistry and interest to make it worth going on a full date with him. Think of it as a date test run; if you enjoy yourself enough on this quick meet-up, then plan for a second, more formal occasion for the next time. This also helps mitigate the feeling of “he’s only in town for X amount of time,” which can create this artificial sense of urgency. Yeah, dude may be across the state from you, but if he’s going to be there for longer than 24 hours, he can invest the initial half-hour before you commit to something longer and more involved next time.

Third: You’re already doing what I would suggest – giving someone you found intriguing a chance, even if they weren’t necessarily your physical type. And while his fame – for whatever value of fame there is in being a minor internet celebrity – can be attractive to people, the thing to consider is that you’ve had the opportunity to get to know him… even if it’s at a certain distance removed. Studies have found that while looks help initially, ultimately, somebody’s personality tends to make them more attractive to you in the long run. So if you dig him for his brain, then you may well realize you also want him for his ass because of it.

(And incidentally, gentlemen: this applies to you too.)

And if not, then you’re really not out too much beyond the time and cost of your meal. You gave a dude a chance, it just wasn’t meant to be as it so often can be with dating. And if things do go well, then you may find it worth your time to go out on a date with someone less Internet famous but equally as appealing, personality-wise.

But more than anything else: trust your instincts. The fact that you haven’t had relationships before doesn’t mean that you can’t tell when a situation feels weird to you. Otherwise, enjoy yourself and may this be the first of however many awesome dating adventures you have to look forward to.

Good luck.

DEAR DR. NERDLOVE: I’m a teenager, and I have a very close friend of mine (let’s call him Jack) in a relationship with someone that some aspects of which seemed… off to me. They’re mid teens as well, so maybe that discounts much of this just because of the inherent confusion, anger, and other issues that come with, well, BEING A TEENAGER. Regardless I thought I’d send this in.

The two of them have been dating for pushing on 6 months now, and they knew each other as friends for about 6 months before they started dating. They’re semi long-distance, so most of the way they communicate is through text and video-calling.

The crux of the matter is, however, that the person who my friend is dating (I’ll call her Jill) is a girl who has mental health problems. She has anxiety and depression, and maybe more, but it boils down to her being extremely self conscious and very worried about what other people think. And to the best of my knowledge, my friend is there for her as much as he feasibly can be, to reassure her and help her and do all he can. This relationship, to my admittedly small understanding of how this sort of thing works, is a good one… most of the time.

Sometimes, Jill will have a bad day. For whatever reason (it’s often something like someone at school was nasty to her or she just feels bad for some reason) she’ll become hypersensitive, and lash out. On several occasions, Jill will decide that by some action Jack has slighted her, doesn’t want to be around her, or doesn’t like her and she unloads on him. This ends up forcing Jack to drop whatever he was annoyed about- which is almost always a legitimate complaint- and focus everything on comforting her. However, this is complicated by the fact that, for that moment, Jill likely DOES believe that he is trying to hurt her, or really DOES believe that he thinks she’s a sh*t girlfriend. And so it’s a lot harder to hold her responsible for these things, none the least because criticizing her could trigger another panic-induced tide of self doubt or loathing.

This can manifest itself in several ways. For example, Jack might complain about how someone might say something rude or insensitive about him and Jill will replies with “true (laughing emoji)”. She’ll explain why it’s accurate, Jack will say that he doesn’t appreciate her insulting him, she apologizes, and he reminds her that she doesn’t stop saying these things, even when she’s sorry.  Then, Jill stops talking for a few hours, coming back on to say “wait to talk until I’m home and can cry”. 

Then Jack will explain why what she said hurt him and Jill will say he shouldn’t be reminding her that she’s a jerk, that it hurts that he says her apology means nothing, that she’s crying now and he shouldn’t be making her cry. There are several more times, times where he wanted to go to sleep and she was mad because he wouldn’t stay up, times where he said she wasn’t fat and said she shouldn’t say that about herself and got accused of calling her an attention whore.

As far as I know she actually thinks this, at least for the limited time these conversations take place in. But that doesn’t make it any more fair to Jack. It doesn’t seem like he can voice any criticism of her or anything she’s doing for fear of both making her feel bad and her feeling bad turning the discussion on its head.

And, I feel I should stress, this DOES NOT happen very often, I cannot emphasize enough how most of the time things are great between them and how happy they are. But the times when there is trouble…

Maybe this is too long, too much writing. But I think this is not good for Jack when this does happen. I’m asking what you think on the matter, is this abuse or just the complications of someone with anxiety, if it is abuse what could or should be done? Does it matter because they are so happy together so much of the time?

Thanks for your time, 

A Concerned Friend

DEAR A CONCERNED FRIEND:I wouldn’t call it abuse necessarily, but it’s certainly sh

ty behavior, bordering on being toxic. Now to be sure: some of this is the nature of being teens; you’re in a messed up transition period in life where you’re not quite adults but everyone expects you to act like one. You’re not quite kids, but everyone treats you like one. And then to add insult to injury, your brains and bodies are flooded with hormones and chemicals as you start reaching your maturity, you’re not getting enough sleep and you’ve got six billion different kinds of anxiety and no goddamn idea how to process any of it.

But while that may help explain why teenagers are walking drama generators, it doesn’t excuse some of the behavior you’re describing here. Neither, for that matter, does whatever mental health issues Jill may have. The fact that she’s dealing with depression or anxiety – which, as someone who suffers from depression himself, I have a lot of sympathy for – doesn’t give her license to be an a

hole. And things like refusing to take responsibility for insulting her boyfriend or making his not-unreasonable request that she do more than just apologize are a

hole behaviors.

There are a lot of people out there who will turn any criticism about their behavior into a diatribe about how mean everyone is. It’s a way of deflecting blame and responsibility and trying to force people into having to disregard their own complaints in order to now comfort and reassure the “injured” party. It can be infuriating, especially when somebody has a legitimate reason to be upset; now they’re left feeling like the a

hole… even when they know what’s going on. And for someone who’s young and not necessarily secure in themselves? It’s one that leave them feeling like they have no out or no way to be heard.

Which is where you come in ACF. It sounds like Jack could use somebody in his corner and point out that, while it’s good that things are happy most of the time, when they’re not, it’s really not. He could use someone he could talk to, someone who can tell him when his problems are legit and be willing to listen to him when he needs to vent.

And, importantly, someone who’s willing to tell him when his girlfriend is being an a

hole to him and that it’s ok to be upset when someone treats him this way.

Now I’m not saying that you need to be pushing Jack to dump Jill. Mostly because it probably wouldn’t work; there’s no better way to get two teenagers to stick together like lovesick barnacles than to try to pull them apart. But also because, honestly, this tends to be a self-correcting problem; the relationships you have in your teen years are like a Zack Snyder film: exciting on the surface, full of sturm and drang and fall apart if you even look at it cross-eyed. But that doesn’t mean that it can’t be painful, or that it can’t create a precedent for the future.

So the best thing you can do is be both a sounding board and a reality check for Jack. Let him know when his complaints are real and when the way that Jill treats him is bad. Back him up when he feels ready to confront her and be his support when he wavers. And when it seems like she’s manipulating him, be the guy to call it out so he can stand firm.

And if he starts to have doubts about things with Jill… well, you can be there to give him your two cents about it all.

Be his friend, ACF, because that’s what he’s going to really need down the line.

Good luck.

Please send your questions to Dr. NerdLove at his website (www.doctornerdlove.com/contact); or to his email, doc@doctornerdlove.com)

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