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Can I Ask Out My Engaged Friend?

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | February 13th, 2020 | Letter 1 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I am attracted to a close friend of mine; however, she is engaged to someone else. From her attitude and what I am told by her, it seems she is less than satisfied with the relationship.

We get along well, and I feel an attraction between us. Were she simply dating, I would not feel awkward, and would not think twice about pursuing a relationship. Is it wrong to pursue another who is engaged unhappily?

GENTLE READER: Were she in the morals business, Miss Manners would answer “yes.” Being in the etiquette business, she answers “yes” -- but for a different reason.

Implying that your friend has both poor judgment -- she should not be engaged to her current suitor -- and is untrustworthy -- she has feelings for you, while engaged to another -- is impolite. It is also unlikely to be effective. Instead, listen sympathetically -- and wait.

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Miss Manners for February 13, 2020

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | February 13th, 2020 | Letter 2 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: Does one need to make any type of acknowledgment when having a conversation in which both people pronounce the same word differently? I’m not talking about words that have regional influences, such as “car” and “caah,” but more like “dachshund” (“dock-sund” vs. “dashhound”) and others.

I realize that both parties believe they are pronouncing the word the correct way; it’s just that sometimes I get this awkward feeling when we go back and forth multiple times using the same word, as if it’s “dueling pronunciations”! Does either party need to acknowledge this in some lighthearted way, or just go with it?

GENTLE READER: If you cannot change the subject or laugh it off (“Oh, I never knew how to pronounce that”), at least change the word. Miss Manners realizes this will be easier if it is not being used to identify which of many dogs are involved in this scrum.

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Miss Manners for February 13, 2020

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | February 13th, 2020 | Letter 3 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: We have two cats, a siamese and an orange tabby, both about 2 years old. When the orange tabby uses her litter box, well, it’s just pungent and disgustingly smelly.

My husband just sits there and says, “When you have pets, they come with smells.” I beg to differ, and think we should eliminate the smells as much as possible. What if we had company over?

What’s the proper etiquette in these matters? I think even one use with fresh litter is one too many. I think he’s trying to gaslight me and he’s just being lazy!

GENTLE READER: Without questioning the motive behind your hypothetical addition of guests, Miss Manners cannot help noticing that it decides the issue in your favor.

Yes, if guests are present, smelly cat boxes should not be. This does not, however, settle the question you pose.

Household questions should be decided by mutual agreement, with both sides giving greater weight to situations that cause greater discomfort. It would seem that your husband would, if he considered it, concede that the discomfort of having to get up is less than the discomfort of smelling ... cats. And this can be further offset by relocating the cat box or by taking turns changing the litter.

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Andrews McMeel Syndication, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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Responding to ‘You Must Be Smart!’

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | February 12th, 2020 | Letter 1 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: A couple of years ago, I finished an advanced degree in a rather specialized program from a prestigious university. Often, when I met new people and the topic of “What do you do?” came up, people would end by saying some variant of “Wow! You must be really smart!”

Now that I’m out of school, people still sometimes say this about my career. I’ve never figured out a polite and humble response, and always feel embarrassed. Saying “thank you” sometimes feels like I’m agreeing with them. If I try to dismiss the comment, it usually comes off as false humility. What should my response be?

GENTLE READER: The question is, as you have noticed, a booby trap, although the speaker may not have meant it as such. As with all ambushes, the proper response is to get as far away as fast you can -- figuratively, not literally.

Talk about how much you enjoy what you do -- “It is always challenging!” -- and then change the subject. It would be natural to reciprocate by asking what your interlocutors studied, but Miss Manners cautions against this. Learning that the flatterer is a dropout will make your predicament worse, not better.

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Miss Manners for February 12, 2020

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | February 12th, 2020 | Letter 2 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: My aesthetician kept me waiting for the length of my recent appointment, while someone else, who was either late or a walk-in, received her treatment. I was unable to wait “just 10 more minutes,” as I had another appointment elsewhere. Was she rude, or am I overly sensitive?

GENTLE READER: Professionals frequently complain to Miss Manners about their clients’ inability to arrive on time. Too often, they fail to see the even more common reverse problem.

An appointment is a two-way commitment. A doctor, lawyer or aesthetician who keeps customers waiting, without both a good reason and an apology, should not expect Miss Manners’ help when their next appointment refuses to stop talking on the phone.

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Miss Manners for February 12, 2020

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | February 12th, 2020 | Letter 3 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: Is it appropriate to give a roommate a thank-you card upon moving out?

I am living in my college’s dorm, in a shared room with three other people. While the individuals across the hall have caused almost constant problems in terms of messiness, excessive noise and petty fights about chore charts, the roommate on my side of the dorm has been genuinely fantastic. We keep vastly different schedules and aren’t close enough to really be friends, but we’ve bonded over the fight to keep the communal areas clean, and get along great on the occasions we are able to talk.

When the semester is over, I am wondering if it would be acceptable to give her a thank-you card, or even a small gift, when we move out for the summer. We will have different assigned rooms next semester, and I want to somehow show my appreciation for how delightful it has been to live with her. Would a thank-you card be appropriate? Or just weird?

GENTLE READER: It might be misunderstood, which is worse. Miss Manners herself might take exception at being thanked for moving out. Tell your roommate how much you enjoyed living with her and that you hope to remain friends, even without a shared cause of complaint.

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Andrews McMeel Syndication, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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How To Tell Male Friends ‘I’m Taken’

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | February 11th, 2020 | Letter 1 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I have been dating my current boyfriend for about seven months. We both have friends of the opposite sex, but ours is an exclusive relationship. We love each other very much and are planning a future together.

How should I handle situations when I’m asked out by other guys? I have a number of guy friends I knew before I met my boyfriend, and whom I remain in touch with -- some that I see day to day, and some that I stay in touch with by email.

One friend asked me to go on a trip with him next summer in Europe. Another friend asked me to go and have a drink with him. I don’t know that person very well, and had only been in touch with him to tell him about something that I knew he was interested in.

I feel like I don’t have any control in these situations. I don’t know how to respond without being rude or hurtful. Am I sending off the wrong signals? How do I politely say “thanks, but no thanks,” or do I have to make the sacrifice of not being friends with guys at all?

GENTLE READER: Of course you have control. You can say yes or no to any such invitations, and you can add, “I’d love for you to meet Jasper. He’s the new man in my life.”

Some will be disappointed, Miss Manners realizes, but others will be happy for you, and those are the friends to keep.

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Miss Manners for February 11, 2020

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | February 11th, 2020 | Letter 2 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: About 10 years ago, a neighbor brought a lawsuit against me over a property issue, forcing me to hire an attorney, whom I addressed as “Mr. Jones” throughout most of our negotiations. As things showed signs of heading toward a final settlement, I noticed that my attorney had always addressed me by my first name (he is male; I am female, and older than he is).

So in one email to him, I wrote “Dear Gary,” adding an apology for doing so, saying that it felt wrong, but justifying it because we have been through so much together these past years. He quickly replied that it was “fine to do so!” (including the exclamation point).

But I wonder what protocol I should have followed. If I were addressing a Catholic priest, I would call him by his religious title (“Father”), together with either his first or last name, according to his preference (Father Joe or Father Smith). But I can’t call an attorney “Esquire Jones.”

Does etiquette suggest that “Mr.” (or “Ms.”) should always be used for professional courtesy in the case of attorneys, despite the fact that mine has, from the beginning, called me by my first name?

GENTLE READER: Did he ask your permission to do this? No, Miss Manners thought not.

Rather than moving you both to social manners, he was assuming the privilege without suggesting that he lose the dignity of his status (which, by the way, would never be “Esquire Jones” -- “esquire” is used after the name in lieu of “Mr.” before it). This is unfortunately common on the part of male professionals with female clients.

But you caught him. Your choice was between asking him to address you formally and addressing him informally. Either way, no apology was required.

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Andrews McMeel Syndication, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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