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Noisy Neighbor at Coffee Shop

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | November 30th, 2019

DEAR MISS MANNERS: A woman sat behind me at a coffeehouse, put her headphones on, and started up a very personal conversation via phone. I was working on my computer, so I had my own headphones on. However, I could not turn up the music loud enough (and at a tolerable enough level for my ears) to drown her out.

I shot a couple of glances behind me (I know, ridiculously passive-aggressive), and, after the second one, she said loudly, “Hang on a minute,” then directed her attention to me and asked, “Is it all right that I am on the phone?” I turned and said, “Well, it’s a bit loud.”

She snapped back (loudly), “I am NOT loud!” I replied, “OK,” and turned around. She ended up gathering up her stuff in a huff and left.

I was left to wonder if I am the rude one by thinking it’s quite rude to hold loud phone conversations in spaces like coffeehouses and restaurants. With more and more people working remotely, I have encountered this more frequently.

I’ve had people say to me, “How is it any different than two people sitting next to you and having a conversation?” It just is. No matter who you are, you speak in a louder voice when talking on the phone (especially in a noisy coffeehouse) than you do just chatting with a friend at your table. And there are now several studies that show that hearing one side of a conversation causes more distraction and less ability to remember things than hearing a two-sided conversation, apparently because your mind is rushing to fill in the other, unheard side of the conversation.

If I have to take a quick phone call while in a coffeehouse or similar space, I step away briefly. If the call is going to be longer, I pack up my stuff and head to my car. Perhaps I am overly conscious of my fellow coffee drinkers or diners, but this seems like the most considerate thing to do.

So, is it rude to hold a long phone conversation or conference call in a busy place of business? And, if Miss Manners does deem it rude, what is the best way to handle it in the future? I really doubt that my passive-aggressive glances are the right approach.

GENTLE READER: Working in coffee shops rather than at home or in offices has indeed become more prevalent. However, the expectation that they should therefore maintain a library level of silence is not reasonable. It is still a public place.

Your letter implies that you recognize this distinction, but Miss Manners feels compelled to emphasize it. It is therefore the volume and subject matter of these calls that is being questioned -- not the right to make them -- and that is more difficult to police politely.

Your best tactic is to show concern for the caller: “This call feels personal and I am sure that you don’t wish others to eavesdrop. I wonder if you would be safer taking it outside.”

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Andrews McMeel Syndication, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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How to Signal ‘My Bad’ After a Near-Collision

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | November 29th, 2019 | Letter 1 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I pulled into traffic without seeing a car coming toward me from the left. Fortunately, that driver saw me and was able to avoid a collision. She blared the car horn at me in frustration, which I thought was appropriate.

What should have been the appropriate response from me? I didn’t want to stick my arm out and wave, in case that action might be misunderstood, but I did want to acknowledge my error. Is there an acceptable hand gesture or other action that would convey the thought, “Please excuse me, my mistake”?

GENTLE READER: A bow of the head and a slightly ashamed nod and salute is about all that can be expressed silently, in motion and behind glass. Miss Manners cautions you that if this is too subtle, it will not be seen -- and if too exaggerated, it might cause another collision. Knowing you were wrong and vowing to be more careful next time is probably all that can be reasonably done.

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Miss Manners for November 29, 2019

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | November 29th, 2019 | Letter 2 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I am a professional writer, struggling to sell my books and make a small margin of profit. Several of my close friends have purchased my book and all have given glowing reviews. Then, often, they say to me: “I am going to lend this book to all my friends in my women’s club,” or “at my church,” or whatever.

How can I tactfully say that I am flattered, but that I would prefer they ask their friends to buy the book, rather than to share my hard work without further compensation to me? If I were an actress, they would not say, “We loved your performance and we’re sneaking all our friends in, free of charge.”

GENTLE READER: True, but you also do not wish to discourage an even more valuable seller: word of mouth. Presumably those few copies of your book will eventually run out. Miss Manners suggests that you say something like, “Thank you so much for recommending it. Here’s hoping your friends will encourage their friends to buy it, so they don’t wear out your only copy.”

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Miss Manners for November 29, 2019

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | November 29th, 2019 | Letter 3 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: My son just got engaged, and they will soon set a date for the wedding. This is his second marriage and her first. His first wedding, everyone from both my wife’s side and my side of the family came into town and gave him and his ex gifts.

With this being his second marriage, should we be inviting these same relatives again? Is it right to ask them to attend and give gifts?

GENTLE READER: While Miss Manners has a certain sympathy for wanting to start a new marriage without the weight of the old china pattern, her usual abhorrence of registries is magnified for a second marriage. You might point out to the bride that generosity and indulgence will more likely be inspired if she does not issue a lengthy and expensive checklist of new presents. At the very least, she should take pains to exclude items that the guests have already seen or bought the first time around.

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Andrews McMeel Syndication, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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No Need to Give Reasons When Declining Invitation

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | November 28th, 2019 | Letter 1 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I am about to start skipping family holiday parties. Let me explain.

My son was diagnosed with schizophrenia two years ago. During the last sixth months, with treatment, he has begun to return to the brilliant, creative young man that he was before. As you might imagine, the past two years have been the hardest of my life.

My family has not been a source of support during this trial, mostly just standing on the sidelines and watching. I was not surprised by this, as it has been like this my whole life. I wish to stop attending family gatherings as I feel they will be detrimental to my son’s recovery in the following ways.

1. A lot of alcohol will be served, and we have learned that alcohol is very problematic for my son. I do not think that he will have the self-control not to drink when almost everyone there does.

2. My mother has a tendency to speak without thinking about context. (She once asked me in a crowded theater, “Are you still having that hemorrhaging problem?”) The last time she saw my son, she said to him, “You are fat!” This is concerning, as he was severely underweight prior to treatment (the voices were telling him not to eat), weight gain is a side effect of his medications, and he is ambivalent about taking them.

I have little hope of my family reforming their behavior. I explained to my mother why the fat comment was so destructive, and she replied that those sorts of comments “just come out.” She is unlikely to change.

I do plan to get together individually with family members who have healthy relationships with me and my son, but we will not attend the big gatherings. You have said that it is necessary only to decline invitations, not to give the reasons why. Do I owe my family an explanation for declining their invitations?

GENTLE READER: Remember that Miss Manners’ stock answer when declining unwanted invitations -- ”Thank you so much, but I just can’t” -- must be provided one invitation at a time. The only way to avoid all future invitations from a specific host is to repeat the process until she gets tired of asking.

That she is also likely to be offended by then is less important when the intention is to dispose of the relationship. This is likely not the outcome you want.

There is, however, an easy solution. Since your family is aware of -- but apparently indifferent to, and therefore uninformed about -- the details of your son’s condition, a useful alternative is, “Thank you so much, but Noah isn’t up to large gatherings yet. When he will be, we will just have to see.”

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Miss Manners for November 28, 2019

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | November 28th, 2019 | Letter 2 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: Is it acceptable for the bride to invite the father of her children and their stepmother to her wedding? The divorce was 20 years ago, and everyone gets along well at family events.

GENTLE READER: Although her answer would have been “yes” even if the relatives did not get along, Miss Manners is pleased to find herself in such agreeable company.

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Andrews McMeel Syndication, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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