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You Can Eat the Soup Bowl, Or Not

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | September 8th, 2015 | Letter 1 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: Edible dinnerware seems to be newly popular, and I am not sure how to handle it. When I ordered clam chowder, it was served in a hollowed-out mini loaf of sourdough bread.

Do I assume that the establishment has run out of regular bowls and not eat the bowl? Which is what I did, as there was sourdough bread served on the side. Digging into the empty bowl at the table did not seem quite proper.

GENTLE READER: You will forgive Miss Manners for the patient smile she develops when told of a modern trend. In medieval times, trenchers, flat rounds of bread, were used as plates. The custom was to give them to the poor after the meal when they (the bread, not the poor) were soaked with juices.

Nowadays, this would not be considered an attractive (or sanitary) form of philanthropy. However, it is reasonable to assume that a trendy restaurant has no intention of washing and reusing your edible soup bowl. You may therefore eat it, or not, as you wish.

Miss Manners shares your confusion at the redundancy of serving bread on the side, but perhaps the restaurant is trying to accommodate both those who like their bread soggy and those who do not.

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Let The Dead Rest In Peace without Being Sent Emails

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | September 8th, 2015 | Letter 2 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: Twice in the past month, I've been sent emails with lists of recipients that include people who have recently died -- one an invitation to lunch, and another to advise that a high school classmate had died.

In both cases, it was clear from the email's content that the sender knew that the recipients were dead. I was especially horrified to see that the one regarding the classmate who died was sent to the dead classmate (along with around 100 other people).

Is sending email to a dead person to advise the person that he has died appropriate? Would it be more appropriate to cc: the deceased in the event that the surviving family might see and appreciate the email? Would it be appropriate for me to contact the sender(s) and suggest that this is in poor taste?

GENTLE READER: Indeed, Miss Manners agrees that the dead should be allowed the courtesy of resting in peace without being bombarded with emails.

It would be rude of you to correct the sender's manners, so we shall have to call it an oversight, as if it were not an unforgivable one, considering the content of the missive. Then you would simply write suggesting that under the circumstances, these people's names should be removed from the list.

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Declining Family Invitation doesn't Require A Reason

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | September 8th, 2015 | Letter 3 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: Do I need to provide a reason why I am not attending my sister's wedding?

GENTLE READER: Your sister already knows the reason, and so does the rest of the family. Miss Manners considers it best to decline gracefully without mentioning whatever unpleasantness -- or difficult personal circumstances -- prevent you from attending.

Actually, excuses are never needed in declining invitations, and only lead to trouble. When they are legitimate, hosts may not consider them more important than their events, and when they are fake, they are bound to be found out.

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Universal Uclick, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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Pregnant Women Can Wear What They Like

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | September 6th, 2015 | Letter 1 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: Pregnant women nowadays appear to want everyone to know they are pregnant, and how far along they are, by wearing tight knit tops. Not only are their stomachs huge, but their belly buttons are pooched out.

I find this disgusting. I'm in my early 60s -- am I too old-fashioned? I miss the days when women wore loose "maternity blouses." One knew that the woman was pregnant, but we didn't have to be reminded of what was going on under the maternity blouse.

GENTLE READER: What Miss Manners misses are the days when no one would have thought of staring a lady -- pregnant or not -- in the belly button. She does not miss the days when pregnant ladies were expected to dress as if they were wearing the nursery curtains.

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Spooning Up The Sauce Is a Very French Thing To Do

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | September 6th, 2015 | Letter 2 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: On a vacation in Paris, I stayed at a lovely furnished apartment. In the kitchen with all of the silverware was a set of round, perfectly flat "spoons" about the size of a teaspoon. There was a set of eight along with all of the other forks and spoons.

Although I have looked on the Internet, I cannot find these spoons and what they would be used for. Can you provide any insight as to their purpose?

GENTLE READER: But yes, as we say in France.

During your stay in Paris, Miss Manners supposes that you also noticed that the French are proud of their cuisine. Those flat spoons were the 20th-century invention of a French chef who didn't want anyone to miss a drop of his superb sauce.

The sauce spoon is rarely seen in America, where some feel that a crust of bread will do just as well, and others have mastered the quick flick with the side of a fork. If you acquired such spoons, you will find that you amaze, and possibly delight, your guests.

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'What Are You Doing?' Doesn't require A Literal Response

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | September 6th, 2015 | Letter 3 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: Members of my husband's family greet me, in person and on the phone, by saying, "What are you doing?" rather than the more traditional, "Hello. How are you?"

Am I wrong in finding their greeting to be rude? It is quite awkward to walk into a social gathering and have someone ask what I'm doing (clearly, I am attending the same event that they are), or to pick up the phone and have someone demand to know what I am doing right that second.

Is it rude of me to ignore their specific question and respond, "I am well, thanks, how are you?"

GENTLE READER: That you do not reply, "I'm answering the telephone," or the equivalent for direct encounters, takes remarkable restraint.

However, your in-laws could point out that "How are you?" could also be construed as an intrusive question.

But Miss Manners agrees with you that there is a difference. Aside from the literal-minded folks who complain that those who ask show no interest in the health problems that are described in reply, most people understand that the inquiry is a mere convention, requiring no more than the perfunctory response you offer. If you want to respond to that, rather than with an almost equally perfunctory "Oh, nothing much," Miss Manners has no objection.

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Universal Uclick, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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Facebook Wedding Pictures Invite Rude Comments

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | September 3rd, 2015 | Letter 1 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: When two dear friends of mine were married, I did not receive an invitation. I assumed (correctly) that they were having a small, intimate wedding. I was in no way offended; quite the contrary, I was very happy for them.

After their ceremony, they posted photos on Facebook to share their good tidings. It was clear that the wedding party was very small, the only others present besides the couple being their pastor; the judge, who is also a friend of theirs; the wedding singer, also an old friend; and three relatives who were the adult children of each of them, and one offspring's spouse.

I was therefore appalled that on one of the photos, not one but two people had remarked, "Gee, I didn't get an invitation."

Really? The couple gracefully apologized to these rude individuals and explained kindly the makeup of the wedding party and their reasons, even though they did not have to.

I could not imagine that anyone would have the gall to complain, or to make any comment whatsoever on being invited or not to a wedding! And on Facebook, broadcasting one's rudeness to all -- how tacky.

Am I being overly sensitive to this? Could the individuals have been joking? I don't know them, so perhaps they were just trying to be funny.

GENTLE READER: If everyone would just cease broadcasting their business full stop, Miss Manners would have a lot more time to enjoy her tea with actual friends instead of hearing about the rest of the world's virtual ones.

While it was gracious of you not to be offended, there is a rule against discussing parties with people who are or were not invited.

If the wedding couple had merely supplemented their announcement with a wedding portrait, those comments would be unwarranted (and unfunny). They are still rude even if written in reaction to festive pictures of the occasion, but the couple in some part brought it on themselves.

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Acknowledging Future In-Laws' Gifts Is Good Protocol

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | September 3rd, 2015 | Letter 2 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: My future mother-in-law sends thoughtful gifts to my boyfriend and me for most occasions -- birthdays, holidays, even Valentine's Day. The cards accompanying these gifts are always signed (by her) with both her and her husband's names.

I know that her husband is oblivious to these tokens and doesn't do gifts. In my thank-you notes, I have always addressed both of them, even though I know that he didn't contribute or care at all. Should I continue addressing both parties?

GENTLE READER: Surely you do not want to challenge your future in-laws about who is paying for what and expressing which sentiments.

While Miss Manners has long maintained that two people cannot write a letter (your mother-in-law could have written, "Herbert joins me in wishing you a Happy Arbor Day"), the reverse is not also true -- you can address one to multiple people. So thanking both of your future in-laws is not only generous and good protocol; it is also correct.

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Universal Uclick, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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