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Avoid Burning Dinner Guests When Serving Warmed Plates

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | June 14th, 2012

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I discovered last winter that my kitchen cabinets, which are along an outside wall, are cold, although my kitchen is usually warm. Future modifications to the house notwithstanding, I am thinking about heating my dinner plates, like the English.

Is there a particular etiquette I should be aware of, such as warning guests and family that their plates are hot? Is it OK to put a trivet or mat at each place to prevent burning the tablecloth?

GENTLE READER: First increase your insurance. Miss Manners gathers that you are planning to heat your plates to scorching.

Not a good idea. If the food needs to be baked or broiled in the dish in which it is served, that dish requires an underliner. Otherwise, what you want to achieve are pleasantly warm plates.

Before the English discovered central heating, which was somewhat later than the rest of the world, they kept themselves warm by standing in front of huge fires and, when sufficiently fried, turning around to defrost their backs. But people no longer tolerate being singed, not even for the sake of a hot meal.

So instead of putting the plates in the oven with the roast, use a soft, cloth plate warmer that folds on itself over and over, inserting plates between each fold. The plates are thus warmed, but not to a temperature that can damage your tablecloth or your guests.

DEAR MISS MANNERS: My 16-year-old daughter had a friend stay over Saturday night. On Sunday morning my daughter went to Sunday school and church service (10 to 12 o'clock) with her boyfriend. My daughter almost never goes to church.

I objected to her going, but gave in and told her she could go only for Sunday school. Due to an alleged misunderstanding, my daughter stayed for church service as well.

Her friend was hurt. My eldest daughter (dead-tired) drove her home because my youngest was not back in time to do so.

I think my daughter should have skipped her Sunday date (which had been tentative all along), and that I was wrong to give in and she to insist on going. She disagrees. What do you think? Are any apologies in order?

GENTLE READER: Not just apologies, but groveling apologies are in order. Miss Manners can imagine how that poor young lady felt, waiting around awkwardly for a hostess who decided she had better things to do.

Perhaps the religious angle befuddled you into condoning such an outrageous sin against hospitality. (Parenting tip: No, the incentive was the boyfriend.) But in that case, the guest should have been told in advance about the plan to attend church and invited to go along. If she chose not to, she could have departed earlier.

Your daughter, in apologizing to her friend, pretty much needs to plead insanity, that she doesn't know what she was thinking, that she was confused about what everyone was doing when -- and then blubber about how awful she feels, how she stupidly missed spending more time with her friend, and so on. She should then issue another invitation.

And you should instruct her thoroughly on hostess duties before permitting her to be one.

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Universal Uclick, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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Couple Ordering Wine Wants to Skip Accompanying Show

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | June 12th, 2012

DEAR MISS MANNERS: My husband and I drink wine with dinner and know what types, brands and vintages we prefer. When we dine out, we usually order a bottle of wine we are familiar with.

Typically, there is an entire presentation: Show the wine, approve the wine, uncork the wine, sometimes smell the cork (I prefer it when they skip that step), pour a splash of wine, look at the wine, swirl the wine, smell the wine, sip the wine, approve of the wine again, and finally get to enjoy the wine with my husband.

Is there any way to skip all the extras? Can't we request our wine to be uncorked, then brought to us?

We would never send a bottle back, even if it wasn't exactly to our liking, so there's no need for all the presentation -- why not just enjoy? Also, after the wine is placed at or next to the table, if our glass runs dry should we wait or ask to be served again, or can we just pour it ourselves? We will be traveling and dining out every night, so any help would be appreciated.

GENTLE READER: Good luck. Those rituals are dear to many hearts, and generally mandated by pretentious restaurants.

Miss Manners understands that all this can become tedious. Some years ago, she was delighted to read of a wine critic who grew so annoyed at the accompanying flourishes that when the cork was presented to him ceremoniously, he ate it.

Having indecorously laughed at that, Miss Manners can hardly enjoin you from asking politely to have your bottle brought to you uncorked, and from refilling your own glasses. She only asks that you try not to crush the spirits of the wine steward or waiter.

Oh, and one more thing. Wine should not be sent back simply because the person who ordered it didn't like it, but only if it has turned or is otherwise undrinkable. Determining that is the point of the tasting. So if you skip that step, you may be drinking the undrinkable. With good grace, Miss Manners trusts.

DEAR MISS MANNERS: At my son's wedding, we are going to wear long black ties with the tuxedo. We are wondering if we have to wear a plain, unpleated tuxedo shirt, or can the tie go also with a pleated tuxedo shirt?

GENTLE READER: As you are presumably interested in correct dress, or you would not have written Miss Manners, please allow her to talk you out of those long black ties. They are proper at funerals, not at weddings. The Academy Awards telecast is not the place to observe gentlemanly dress. The suit you mention requires a pleated shirt and black bow tie.

DEAR MISS MANNERS: Is it polite to ask how a person was injured, in this case the loss of a hand? My friend met an upbeat young man giving a lively tour of a restaurant. He seemed completely comfortable with his handicap, as though it had happened years back. Would it be impolite, in private, to inquire about his injury?

GENTLE READER: It would be hideously impolite, although it probably happens a lot. Miss Manners fails to see what business of yours that could be, and hopes that you do not go around asking to peek at other people's medical records.

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Universal Uclick, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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Internet Dilemma: Reconnect or Disconnect?

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | June 10th, 2012

DEAR MISS MANNERS: What do you make of the practice of old high school/college classmates reconnecting with someone only when a major life event is taking place?

A friend and I became acquainted while we were college classmates and maintained a friendship over the years. Seven years ago, other things began to take precedence over us keeping in touch, I guess. She moved away and I remained.

Flash-forward to present day: I got a call from my ex-husband, saying that she had come across his name/profile on LinkedIn and wanted his help in passing her contact info along to me (she obviously no longer had mine).

I knew immediately that she was either getting married or engaged, or was having a baby. I don't know how I knew this, but it turns out my intuition was well placed.

When we finally connected, she was all chatty -- "Girlll, it has been ages since we've talked! You are the only one I remembered from the Glee Club!" She then went on to tell me that she wanted my address so she could send me a wedding invitation.

Now mind you, she was in my hometown last year, but obviously didn't feel motivated enough to reach out to me then -- until now, when she's getting married.

I just think it is so interesting when people feign concern for another person, when clearly there is another agenda. For me, this has occurred on more than one occasion.

In a reversal of the situation, when I was compiling my wedding guest list, I did not feel compelled to reach back and invite people who I had not been in contact with in over 10, 15 years. I felt it appropriate to invite only friends/family who I had remained in contact with.

To me, it would have been phony to reconnect with long-lost people only for the purpose of engaging them in the "special moment," especially if I truly had not been motivated to keep up with them in other, less glamorous life moments.

Am I getting bent way out of shape? What is the best way to react to this type of overture should it happen again?

For the record, I played along and did attend her birthday celebration, which was taking place in my hometown during the same weekend as her wedding shower. I declined the RSVP to her wedding, however.

GENTLE READER: Isn't half the Internet taken up with people trying to reconnect with their old classmates -- or at least trying to discover that they turned out badly?

And isn't it possible that a similar impulse -- well, the nostalgic one, rather than the vindictive one -- moves people to include old friends at important events?

As you did not have such feelings, you were right to decline the wedding invitation. Miss Manners is only trying to assuage your cynicism.

DEAR MISS MANNERS: What should you do with an engagement ring after a divorce? Should you sell it, keep it, etc.? It was already agreed for the ex-wife to keep the ring and not return it to the ex-husband.

GENTLE READER: There must be some formula for this, weighing a former wife's feelings about the husband and about the ring. For example, if she hates him but loves it, throwing it in his face, or in the river, would provide short-term satisfaction and long-term regret. In any case, Miss Manners recognizes that the ring is hers, and she gets to decide what to do with it.

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Universal Uclick, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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