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Use Common Sense When Planning Gay Wedding -- or Any Wedding

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | August 17th, 2008

DEAR MISS MANNERS: What would our 19th-century etiquette forebears think of the modern notion of hitting "talk" on the cell phone while in a public restroom, shouting against the background noise of liquid flowing?

GENTLE READER: Probably "My stars! Indoor privies!"

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Errors Abound in Printed Signs

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | August 14th, 2008

DEAR MISS MANNERS: Last night, when I was shopping in a nationally known, chain-type drugstore in my neighborhood, I noticed three different signs that contained misspellings.

These were the kind of signs that are input by someone into a computer, and then are generated by the computer into a professional-looking typed sign. They were very large and noticeable signs.

When I saw the first misspelled sign, I mentioned it to a young lady who was working in one of the nearby aisles, and she and I both laughed about it. Later, when two more came to my attention, I started feeling like it wasn't that funny.

I work as a proofreader and editor, and it disappoints me to see so many mistakes regarding the English language. Would it be rude to call the store and mention the mistakes to the manager, in a polite way, of course? Part of me believes that I would be remiss if I did not bring the matter to someone's attention.

GENTLE READER: The desire to lead the entire world to correctness is an urge with which Miss Manners has the greatest sympathy. Even if leads to proofreading your drugstore.

But neither of us can run around insulting people, which is what an amazing number of people do when they detect errors, little thinking that they are committing worse errors in so doing.

This applies to correcting individuals, however, not institutions. So you may inform those in authority to act (which the salesperson you approached probably was not) on mistakes of which you sympathetically know they would want to be aware.

DEAR MISS MANNERS: Is accommodating a single woman into a group of several couples enough of a headache to make the couples not want to make the effort, and, if so, why?

I have been a female member of such a group for the past 16 years. For the first half, I was married, but for most of the second half, I have been single. At first, I was an active participant in most group activities, but over the past three or four years, my status has slowly wound down to that of "fifth wheel."

I now see my old friends at an occasional holiday party or dinner at one of the houses, or one-on-one lunches with the wives once or twice a year. While this has been happening, due to slips of tongues and e-mail comments, I am forced to learn of a fair number of group get-togethers that I had not known about or been a part of.

I promise that the only reason I can imagine that I have been separated from the main group activities is my single status, and frankly, since these people were such good friends for so long, I am puzzled. What does Miss Manners suggest for a lady who finds herself disheartened and exhausted trying to figure out what she should do about this situation?

GENTLE READER: For reasons ranging from cruel thoughtlessness to nasty suspicions, it is not uncommon for couples to drop someone who becomes single.

But it can also happen out of excess compassion. The gentlemen refuse to allow the single lady to contribute to the expenses of outing, and then get tired of paying for her. Or the ladies feel they should find her a date for the evening and can't.

In any case, doing something about it is preferable to brooding. Miss Manners recommends your putting aside hurt feelings and issuing invitations and excursion suggestions to these people until they resume the habit of including you.

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Well-Heeled Woman Confused About Style

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | August 12th, 2008

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I am confused about the growing habit of wearing high heels without stockings. I feel as though I am not dressed properly without hose, and yet people will deliberately ask me (even at embassy functions) if I am wearing stockings, as though I am making a major mistake.

Is there a rule, a difference between wearing peptone or sandal high heels and pumps? What is the purpose of sandalfoot hose if not for showing toes when dressed up? Is there a difference between warmer and colder climates? Is there a rule about wearing different style shoes for dress?

GENTLE READER: The world situation must be better than Miss Manners thought if people at embassies have the luxury of getting worked up over whether the guests are wearing stockings.

Perhaps this is merely a weather-related conversation opener, to which the answer should be, "Yes, and I thought I'd faint from the heat while I was trying to get a taxi."

Because of course the answer is yes, although it is also the case that people should not be checking out one another's legs to find out. Visibly bare legs (Miss Manners knows and says nothing about whatever is hidden under long skirts or trousers) are wrong for any even slightly formal occasion, and bare toes (as opposed to those discreetly veiled inside those strappy evening shoes that look so good and feel so terrible) are even more wrong.

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I am a student working at a summer camp with 120 campers. Every day we have to move all of those children out in half an hour with a precise system of binders and designated areas and yellow tape.

Some parents are making business calls when a person approaches them with a binder, and they don't seem to want to hang up. This slows down our system considerably. What can I say to the parents who cannot wait to talk about their stock options?

GENTLE READER: Whatever you say, they are not listening. As a student summer employee, you will not have the authority to make rules, and Miss Manners is afraid that parents who have already shown themselves willing to inconvenience others will resent any attempt to comply.

Ah, but as a student summer employee, you will enhance your own standing with your employers if you make suggestions -- for them to issue as rules -- that will improve conditions. The one Miss Manners recommends is that two lines be established for pick-ups: cell phone lines and cell phone-free lines. The camp will not have to worry about policing this; other parents will be only too eager to do so.

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I took my family to lunch, and the granddaughter gave the food orders. I told her, "You give the order to the man in the group and he passes it on to the waiter." RIGHT?

GENTLE READER: Not right enough for you to shout it like that.

Your granddaughter should have given you her order because you were the host. That rule still holds. And nice, old-fashioned ladies like Miss Manners still direct their choices to the gentleman with whom they are dining, to the bewilderment of young waiters, who can hear perfectly well what is being said.

But the host factor takes precedence. Should your granddaughter take you out to lunch, you should give her your order.

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