DEAR DR. NERDLOVE: Long time lurker occasional letter writer, you have helped me and many others navigate the dark and turbulent waters of non-monogamy and alternate lifestyle dating. I have been, and continue to be happily poly, 5ish years in. It was not an easy transition, and decidedly playing the relationship game on Hard mode, but it’s been ultimately worth it for me and my partners. All of this to preface my current situation.
I have 2 very stable long-term partners that I love. I had been dating a third, really sweet guy, who had just gotten divorced and was ready to explore some other dating options. We had a conversation about polyamory and our long-term relationship goals. He was currently happy to date multiple people and enjoy more casual hangouts, with his ultimate end game to go back to monogamy for stability. I get it, relationships are hard! And polyamory is NOT a good fit for everyone.
So, with the knowledge that we would never be more than causal partners, we ended up dating for roughly a year. He worked on himself, picked up hobbies went to therapy and decided he was finally ready to find his next full-time partner. So, when he told me that he was in love with a really cool girl, I was thrilled for him. We had previous plans for a weekend away, but I told him I would bow out, or we could go just as friends. As I said, he’s a cool dude and I like him. The original relationship plan was to date, and then hopefully stay friends afterwards.
Yeah…I may have been too optimistic.
By the time the weekend trip rolls around, they had been dating for 2 weeks. The weekend goes off with no problems and only one reminder that, Nope, really, we are just friends now. And all is well…
A week later, they are broken up and he asks if we can date again. And it’s on me that I said yes. Because it hadn’t been long. Fast forward another week, and he’s yet again madly in love with someone new, so no hard feelings (there were absolutely hard feelings)… I wish them well and off he goes, two weeks later I get the drunk call of. Bad news, she broke up with me, but that means we can date again!
This is when I realized he assumed that I was going to be the stand in girlfriend. And told him sorry but I am not a consolation prize. He threw an absolute fit and it went about as well as you would think. He later apologized for said outburst admitted to being in love with me. But knowing that I wouldn’t just be with him meant he had to find someone else. I may have gotten a nervous eye twitch when I had to explain to him that he threw away my affection twice, and honestly assumed I would continue to do so anytime
He was freshly single… this dude DOES NOT understand polyamory at all. And now I just feel very, very tired. And all of this to say, how the hell do I talk to people who want to date, that this IS in fact a real relationship, and just because it’s temporary doesn’t mean I should be treated as an afterthought.
So Very Tired…
DEAR SO VERY TIRED: This is, unfortunately, not an uncommon problem, SVT, and it’s going to continue to be a problem as polyamory and ethical non-monogamy become increasingly normalized and accepted.
I’ll be honest: there’re times when it feels difficult to write about topics like polyamory or kink or other relationship models that veer outside of the mainstream without feeling like maybe the “oh, you like $AUTHOR? Name three of their books” isn’t the worst way to go. As a general rule I think gatekeeping is bad; it generates a sense of faux-elitism and almost always serves to drive away people who are genuinely interested but may not (yet) have the same encyclopedic knowledge of the in-group. But when it comes to sex and relationships… well, a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.
A lot of people, for example, got interested in kink in the aftermath of the release of 50 Shades of Gray. However, their knowledge of kink came almost exclusively from pop-culture… and frankly, that taught them all the wrong lessons. From not understanding the dynamics of a scene, the purpose of aftercare or even what constitutes a difference between kink and abuse, a lot of folks were operating with what they thought was a level of knowledge that they didn’t actually have. This created a situation where “knowing just enough to be dangerous” wasn’t a quippy reply but a statement of literal fact – many people didn’t understand, for example, the ways to communicate during a scene or why they want to use specific tools or toys, or rules and best practices for kink play. Many people not familiar with kink, for example, might not realize that tying someone up with certain types of rope or immobilizing them with police-style hand-cuffs could cause permanent nerve damage to their unsuspecting partner, or that leaving an immobilized person alone could potentially lead to death.
The same goes for ethical non-monogamy and polyamory; the knowledge that people think they have isn’t necessarily complete, comprehensive or even – in some cases – in the same zip code as correct. Many times, people who haven’t managed to sort out basic issues of trust, communication or connection in their monogamous relationships will try to enter poly or ENM relationships and not realize that they’re going to be bringing the same conflicts, but multiplied exponentially.
These misunderstandings, even when coming from someone well-intentioned, can lead to a lot of unnecessary pain, misery and in many cases, shattered and failed relationships. There’re reasons why there’s so much discourse around The Right Way To Poly – because there’re so many ways for things to go wrong. It may seem simple and intuitive at first, but those gaps in both knowledge and experience can lead to otherwise easily avoidable conflicts.
Hell, Lily Allen’s “West End Girl” is a treatise on one of the ways a poly relationship can fall apart, messily and all over the place.
Which brings us, kicking and screaming, back on topic to your question, SVT. And while poly is a key detail to the issue at hand, the bigger issue was your ex.
I agree: his ignorance of what polyamory was and how it works was a problem. He didn’t actually want polyamory. In fact, I’m not sure he knew what he did want; he just knew what he didn’t want, which was sexual exclusivity. And to be fair… that’s not an unreasonable thing! He just came out of a divorce and wanted to have some time to date around. All well and good, a tale as old as time, too bad the dude’s a slime. If he had stuck to this while he was trying to relearn who he was and what he wanted, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
But the problem is that he wanted a casual relationship and – like many people before him – he took the nature of the relationship as a sign that he could also treat you casually. He may not have intended to do so… but that doesn’t change what he did. And what he did, intentionally or no, was not just hurtful but insulting.
One of the reasons why I often feel like maybe a little gatekeeping is warranted with ENM is because people who aren’t experienced with it or know people who are non-monogamous – not just “aren’t exclusive” but actively practice non-monogamy – often have a lot of mistaken ideas of what that means in practice. Many think that poly and ENM people don’t experience jealousy or that people who are ENM are horny, easy or indiscriminate in who they sleep with. Others think that the fact that their relationship isn’t exclusive or is short-term means that they can enter or exit it with little care for their partner. A casual or non-exclusive relationship may mean that you aren’t in love and don’t expect love to be a major part of the connection, but that doesn’t mean that people don’t have feelings… feelings that get hurt when someone treats you like an object.
And that’s precisely what he did: he treated you like an object, rather than a person. He very clearly thought that the lack of exclusivity (and existence of other partners) meant that his relationship with you was inherently lesser than a potentially monogamous one. He saw you as an option, rather than a priority, dropping you like a bad habit the instant that a “real,” “serious” (read: monogamous) relationship became an option, leaping in with greater verve and excitement than he showed with you. His mode of “hey, a better option showed up, I’m going to toss this aside for someone I literally just met” carries a metric f--k-ton of “you don’t matter”, whether he intended it or not.
Yeah, you both knew that this wasn’t going to be serious, or even a terribly long relationship, but that doesn’t mean you’re made of stone. And again, to be fair: you were trying to live up to the bargain you’d made about trying to be friends. So maybe I could see this as being a learning experience for him, particularly after he came back with his tail between his legs.
I would agree that you probably shouldn’t have taken him back. But hey, it’s understandable to think that maybe a lesson had been learned. Dude is a grown-ass man, after all.
But obviously he didn’t, seeing as he didn’t last a f--king week before falling “in love” again, ending things with you again and coming back a-f--king-gain not even two goddamn weeks later, tail between his legs and asking if you would be his crash pad.
Again.
I have had bagels that lasted longer than this guy’s relationships.
He even had the gall to throw “…but I’m really in love with you!” into the mix. Which, considering how quickly he fell “in love” with his other mono choices, ends up adding insult to injury.
But hey, he’s gone like last week’s compost and good riddance. The problem is though… he’s not alone. There’re a lot of folks who are 1000% convinced that they want and/or can handle a poly or ENM relationship, but who are also carrying around a lot of mononormativity. Sometimes it’s a matter of unpacking and unlearning old lessons, and that’s fine… but there are also folks, like this dude, who never stop thinking of monogamous relationships as being “real” or “meaningful” in ways that ENM ones “can’t” be. So I don’t blame you for being both exhausted and incredibly gun-shy.
And unfortunately, this is the part where I have to say that there really isn’t a good way of keeping this from happening again. An obvious answer would be “don’t date people who don’t have any experience in ENM” or “only date people within the ENM community”. But the obvious answer doesn’t actually help, because the problem isn’t the monogamy of it all. F--k knows people can be ENM or polyamorous and still treat their partners like accessories or an afterthought. The poly and ENM forums, subreddits and Facebook groups are littered with tales from folks who’re just as casual with their partners’ feelings as this bright spark was with yours.
Now that having been said, there are a few things I recommend. Since you’re polyamorous and have two partners already, I think you’re well within your rights to filter out future potential partners – casual or serious – who don’t have experience with ENM or polyamory. While this can put a pretty significant limit on the raw number of matches, I think the tradeoff of not having to be their guide to the top of Mount Non-Monogamy and not having to hold their hand through the various trials and tribulations that can come with one’s first ENM experience would be worth it. And this is especially true for folks who are only dipping a toe into ENM but are more mono-oriented. You aren’t a foster partner, taking care of these dudes until they’re ready for their forever relationship after all. Even if it’s going to be a casual or limited relationship, better for it to be a relationship, rather than a stopping point on someone else’s journey of personal growth.
The second thing I would suggest is making how someone treats you a much stronger boundary issue. You don’t need to be their number one priority, but someone who can’t (or won’t) honor the relationship they have with you or treat you with respect as a person is someone who should – if not be given their first and possibly only warning – be shown the door. I also wouldn’t blame you for having a “Once we end this, that’s it, no take-backs” policy. That doesn’t mean that they’re dead to you – you were trying to stay friends with this guy, after all – but it does mean that they can’t keep trying to slide back to you when their next relationship fails.
Obviously, this doesn’t have to be an iron clad rule. If the person shows genuine growth and change and understanding, then maybe they can be an exception. But even then, I would suggest that this should only be after a significant amount of time; after all, this guy came crawling back almost immediately, having learned precisely nothing.
And the last thing I would suggest is the same thing I tell everyone who’s dealt with a partner who treated them too cavalierly: be careful with who you give your heart to and who you invest in, emotionally. A lot of heartache comes when we invest in someone before they’ve shown they’re someone worth investing in and before it’s time to invest in them. That means that things like overnights or trips together may need to be restricted to your committed partners – at least until the new person has reasonably proven themselves. And if you know that they’re always going to have one foot out the door, romantically speaking… well, they’re probably not going to be a great investment opportunity for you.
The road to making love work is never easy. But it is worth it.
Good luck.
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