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Websites Can’t Practice Manners, But Their Designers Can

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | August 23rd, 2018 | Letter 1 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: Is it good manners to pop up music that cannot be located or turned down or off and only goes away if you leave the webpage?

GENTLE READER: Manners is something practiced by people, not websites, but Miss Manners understands your point. She, too, wishes that site designers would be more considerate. But she is also grateful that when they are not, others step in to solve the problem: Most computers can now be quickly and easily muted, something designers would do well to note.

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Miss Manners for August 23, 2018

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | August 23rd, 2018 | Letter 2 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: My nieces (ages 43 and 39), with whom I have always been close, are no longer speaking to me. The issue is a text I sent to them informing them of the death of my ex-husband, their uncle. I’ve been divorced 20 years and remarried for 18 years.

At the request of my only child, Sean, I sent my nieces a text. It read: “Dear Beautiful Nieces, just wanted to let you know Sean’s dad passed away on Monday morning. Sean has respectfully asked that no one post anything on social media. Thank you for your prayers for his family. Love, Aunt Anita.”

I was unaware my nieces were even upset. We have all always been close, sharing birthdays, holidays, attending school graduations and being supportive of each other. After several calls and texts trying to set up a lunch date with one niece, I asked my sister, their mother, if she knew why I hadn’t gotten a response.

She reluctantly admitted that both nieces were “extremely insulted” by the text I had sent requesting they not post anything on social media. I merely passed along the request of my son, their cousin. Was this insulting? Any suggestions on how to resolve this problem, since they aren’t communicating with me?

GENTLE READER: After walking off a cliff, it often turns out that there were questionable steps before the final one, and this was the case here.

Your son was upset by the death of his father and busy making funeral arrangements. His asking you to convey the information to his cousins was understandable, but it put you on unsteady ground because of the divorce: It would be natural to assume that the death of your ex-husband was harder on your son and your nieces than on yourself.

Your son’s request not to post the news on social media also contained an unintended trap: It could, as it was, be interpreted by recipients as a criticism of their manners.

Finally, you conveyed serious news -- worthy of a formal communication -- through the decidedly casual medium of texting. Miss Manners ventures to guess that your nieces were offended not so much by the ban on social media as by the overall impression given that the news was not deserving of a telephone call or letter.

The solution is a handwritten note of condolence on their loss. Include an apology that you meant no disrespect to anyone, and an explanation that the reason for the social media ban was your son’s desire to inform acquaintances himself in a more personal way. You can be vague about precisely what disrespect you are apologizing for, so long as you avoid blaming your son for any part of the mishap.

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Andrews McMeel Syndication, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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Actual Meaning of ‘Appointment Time’ Can Vary

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | August 22nd, 2018 | Letter 1 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: My husband and I have never been late for anything in our lives -- until recently. On two separate occasions in the past month, we have been reprimanded for not arriving at least 20 minutes before the time designated for professional appointments.

Granted, small print on the cards advised arriving earlier, but if the appointed time clearly designated on the card is 3:30, we feel that we are not late until then. If we need to be there at 3:10, then 3:10 should be the appointed time, not 3:30.

I never considered appointment times to be subjective, and I haven’t been particularly polite to those who accused us of being late. What is going on here? Has someone changed the definition of “appointed time”?

GENTLE READER: It seems that all people now make up their own definitions, so Miss Manners cannot blame you for being confused. Doctors’ offices are among the worst offenders, issuing appointments ostensibly for the time that the doctor is ready to see you. Would that it were so.

But this then makes necessary the admonition you mention so that patients will arrive with sufficient time to fill out the mounds of required paperwork.

Professionals who wish to show respect for patients -- and perhaps also for tight schedules, both their own and their patients’ -- would do well to begin issuing appointments for the time when the client is expected to arrive. She notes that surgical hospitals have already achieved this miracle, unfortunately by subtracting not minutes, but hours, from the time when the doctor is ready to receive.

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Miss Manners for August 22, 2018

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | August 22nd, 2018 | Letter 2 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: It was my friend’s 30th birthday party, and everyone made the journey quite far out of town to attend and give her gifts. When we presented her with her gifts, she opened all the birthday cards but left the presents.

I usually like to open a present when it is given to me and thank the person right away, but I respect those who don’t want to put on a show of opening presents and prefer to thank the giver later.

Three days later, everyone who attended the party received a group Facebook message saying, “I finally got around to opening all my birthday presents, and now I don’t know who any of them are from! I’m so disorganized, haha!”

I was a little miffed that she was so flippant about presents we had all put time into choosing for her for a special birthday. Thoughts?

GENTLE READER: Your friend certainly does not think ahead. It did not occur to her that separating the cards from the presents would cause a problem. It did not occur to her that her message would cause ill feeling. And it did not occur to her that since her message contains no words of thanks, she has yet either to display any gratitude or to solve the problem of how to do so.

It is clear to Miss Manners that she is in need of a friend. Write back to her and the group in a light tone, telling her what you gave. This will encourage everyone else to chime in. If she does not then use this information to make individual thanks, you have Miss Manners’ permission to resume being miffed.

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Andrews McMeel Syndication, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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American or Not, Just Use Titles Correctly

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | August 21st, 2018 | Letter 1 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: What is the protocol for addressing a U.S. citizen by a title they obtained through marriage, e.g., “countess” or “princess”?

A newspaper book reviewer referred to Lee Radziwill as “princess.” In another article, a reality television “star” refers to herself as “countess.” Both women are American.

Is it correct for Americans to use such titles? I always thought that Americans should not -- that, in the words of a dear, late friend, “It’s just not done.”

GENTLE READER: Yes, but so many things that are just not done are done.

Those who retain their American citizenship should not use titles in reference to themselves. For that matter, no titled people, domestic or foreign, should ever refer to themselves by using their own titles. This is such an established tradition among aristocrats that anyone who violates it is under suspicion of using a false title.

But one of your examples is the opposite: namely, how other Americans should address or refer to those with titles. Miss Manners sees several factors at play here: courtesy, practicality and silliness.

Addressing people as they wish to be addressed is a matter of courtesy.

The practical part is so that we know which Elizabeth you are talking about.

Those reasons alone would justify using the titles by which these celebrities are known.

As for the silliness: Many Americans are frightfully fond of titles, and toss them around haphazardly. It was impossible to convince such people that there was no “Princess Diana.” She was styled Lady Diana because of her birth -- itself a courtesy title, because the British recognize only one title holder in a family -- and, by marriage, Diana, Princess of Wales.

The error that Miss Manners sees is not in addressing others by their titles but in doing so incorrectly.

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Miss Manners for August 21, 2018

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | August 21st, 2018 | Letter 2 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: My husband and I were invited to a wedding in which the bride and groom had set up a charity registry. I was very glad to see information on the three charities designated for wedding tributes highlighted on the couple’s website, since this was our first experience with this type of event.

While I’m certainly not “Miss Manners,” I was somewhat surprised that the charity registry was mentioned again on the formal wedding invitation. As we drove in rush-hour traffic from the airport to the hotel on wedding weekend, we each received emails from the bride and groom. (Other wedding guests we know received the identical email.) The message was a reminder to arrive on time for the ceremony and to “please keep in mind that we have established a charity registry for this event, designating gifts to three charities that are near and dear to our hearts. Please give generously.”

What’s your thought on all of this? By the way, nearly one year has passed and most of the guests at this event have yet to receive thank-you notes from the bride and groom.

GENTLE READER: That is because they are busy thanking themselves for being so generous and charitable, using your money. Miss Manners has always thought it odd that those who pride themselves on being virtuous at others’ expense so often fail to practice the virtue of gratitude.

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Andrews McMeel Syndication, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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