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Public Restroom Noise Is Best Ignored

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | January 7th, 2016 | Letter 1 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I was in one of three or four communal stalls in the ladies' room of a restaurant, just finishing up, when another person walked into the stall next to me, closed the door, and then began to both sob and urinate audibly.

What is the appropriate response in such a situation?

I am one who would become more upset in the face of sympathy from a stranger, so I kept silent and waited for the aggrieved party to finish both her micturition and her audible sorrow. But perhaps this was inappropriate.

GENTLE READER: Forgive Miss Manners -- she knows that the answer you are seeking is in regards to the crying, but she can't get past what you might think the response to someone audibly urinating might be. ("Could you tone it down? Some of us are trying to concentrate.")

In any case, you should ignore both. If the stranger's ... ahem ... noise escalates, you can certainly ask if she needs assistance, and if you feel unable to provide it, send for an employee -- or doctor -- instead.

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Miss Manners for January 07, 2016

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | January 7th, 2016 | Letter 2 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: My husband and I don't wish to have biological children, and we are not currently interested in discussing adoption.

A few months ago, he started a job that pays much more than his previous one. We are financially comfortable (not wealthy) enough that he suggested my quitting my previous job, which I hated and was underpaid for. I now have time to volunteer at an animal shelter, do shopping and errands for an elderly relative, take two classes at a community college, as well as care for our home.

Lately, when I see people we know, they often want me to explain what I "do all day" since we have no children and I am not working outside the home. This is usually followed by questions about how much time and effort each activity involves, as if I need to prove that I am not lying on a couch and watching television.

A couple of people have also asked me to baby-sit after I previously made plans with relatives or friends, assuming that I cannot possibly be busy with anything important. They expect me to be able to cancel my plans, since whatever I am doing is not a job and I am not a mother.

What is the best way to tell people that I do not think my schedule is their business?

GENTLE READER: While you have legitimate gripes about the people who are asking what you do all day, Miss Manners detects in your tone a pre-emptive fatigue. You do not need to volunteer any unnecessary information, nor justify any appointments you made. If friends are actually asking you to cancel plans, then you may say, "I'm sorry, but my schedule is confirmed." However, be careful that you do not project your frustrations on those innocently asking about your availability.

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Universal Uclick, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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Woman's Exit From Job Results in Competing Explanations

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | January 5th, 2016 | Letter 1 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I was out for drinks with a friend who works in the same industry as I do. I was telling her about my transition out of my last job and how difficult is was because my boss didn't want me to leave. I was sharing that my former boss made me an outrageous offer to stay and that I politely declined, saying that it was time for me to move on.

My friend looked puzzled and shocked. After a moment or two, she leaned in and said that she was told by my former boss that I had been let go for "strategic reasons."

I have a wonderful new job that I love, and I'm generally liked and respected by my colleagues and peers, so I'm not terribly worried that this rumor will be believed, but I am pretty angry that she would go around spreading it. My husband thinks I should say something to her because she is trying to ruin my reputation. What should I do?

GENTLE READER: Are you quite sure this remark wasn't made out of exasperation at your saying how valued you are?

In any case, that is the way Miss Manners recommends your telling the story to your former co-workers, with whom you seem to keep in touch. A story ridiculing oneself gets around more than a complaint.

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Miss Manners for January 05, 2016

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | January 5th, 2016 | Letter 2 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: A co-worker I am also close friends with is a wonderful employee and an amazing mother, but she quite often -- with no warning -- shows up to work with one or more of her kids. This is usually because they are out of school with colds or fevers, or sometimes just because.

We work with a lot of valuable electrical equipment and have a consistent flow of clients and "fans" who come in. She keeps her kids here in a room with her that is communal to the other employees, who have their own families they're trying not to get sick. Her kids also show up in pictures later wearing/using very expensive pieces of equipment from their time here.

They are very well-behaved children and have never caused a problem, although they do sidetrack her from other tasks and chat a lot with other workers while they're at the office. I respect my co-worker so much and don't want to come across like I'm judging or instructing her as a parent, but some things are just unnecessary, inconvenient and inappropriate for a professional setting.

GENTLE READER: You are understandably confused. Your co-worker is your friend. Your potential clients are fans. And you are unsure whether you are giving parental or professional advice.

But your co-worker/friend is equally confused. She does not know if she is at work or at home. Sick people do not belong in an office, nor should professional equipment be used as toys.

Miss Manners advises you to refer the matter to the person you have forgotten to mention but who has the most interest in a resolution: the boss. The idea is not to tattle or complain, but to express sympathy and suggest leniency in allowing parents to meet emergencies.

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Universal Uclick, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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Professional Pol Can't Avoid Talking Shop

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | January 3rd, 2016 | Letter 1 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I have been in politics professionally for more than 30 years. I also shoot trap and skeet recreationally. Friends and extended family often ask my opinions on any number of political issues, including gun control.

You probably know that means they want to inform me of their opinions, which I already know and do not need any more information. In some cases there are issues I cannot discuss.

For the past few years I have been responding that I prefer not to discuss politics. It's been effective, but I feel I'm being pompous and rude. Any suggestions?

GENTLE READER: As great a believer as Miss Manners is in deflecting nosy questions and avoiding explosive topics, she is astounded at the idea of a professional politician declaring that he will not discuss politics.

You do not say whether you are an office-holder or a strategist, but in either case, you insult members of the public by refusing to talk about political issues.

Yet you already hold the key to a response that is not just polite, but flattering. That is your realization that people want you to listen to them.

Yes, they probably just want to vent. But another name for that is making their views known to someone in a position to make, or at least influence, policy. However much you think you have heard everything they might have to say, it is arrogant and politically dangerous to assume you can dismiss their feedback.

That is not to say that you have to engage in an argument about gun control or other issues. But you do have to hear people out, thank them for their views, and tell them that you are thinking about their point of view, even though you differ with them.

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Questions About Race or Origin Must Be Handled With Caution

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | January 3rd, 2016 | Letter 2 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: What and when is the polite way to ask someone's race or country of origin?

I understand that doing so immediately upon being introduced makes people uncomfortable. But later in conversation, when it's typical to ask get-to-know-you questions like "What do you do for a living?" how can I politely ask, "Where are you from?" or more likely, "Where are your parents from?"

If they seem to be mixed race, how can I ask which? If they have an accent, how can I ask what it is, in a way they'll like?

I really appreciate it when people offer this info so I don't have to ask, but what if they don't? Please suggest a conversation starter!

GENTLE READER: You could start by giving your own provenance, and then allowing others a chance to chime in with theirs.

But Miss Manners cautions you to end with this, as well, unless your interlocutor responds in kind. Some people like to discuss their backgrounds, but others feel as if they are being appraised, or are just plain weary of explaining themselves.

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Excuse Yourself When You Can Take No More Talk

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | January 3rd, 2016 | Letter 3 of 3

DEAR MISS MANNERS: How do you politely tell someone they talk much too much and should just shut up?

GENTLE READER: "Thank you; I enjoyed hearing this. Now if you'll excuse me ..."

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Universal Uclick, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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