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Public Plea for Donations Can Be Politely Declined

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | March 3rd, 2015 | Letter 1 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: On a wonderful weekend in New York City with a friend and our two daughters, ages 9 and 12, we enjoyed a Broadway show, dinners out, sightseeing and crowd watching. At the theater, after the show was over, we were told that cast members would be at the exits collecting donations for a charity supported by the members.

As we exited, sure enough, actors were holding buckets just waiting for our cash. At the restaurant that night, the singing waiters came around and asked for donations to help them attend acting and singing classes so that they, too, could become Broadway stars.

Both situations made me feel pressured to donate to their causes, which aren't necessarily on my philanthropic list. My daughter also dug into her wallet to donate, but at 12, I don't know that she really understood what she was donating to.

Is this a new trend to solicit donations from captive audiences? How should I politely refuse to donate as the wait staff comes by my table and holds their collection cup directly in front of me?

I also see this trend at stores. When I check out, I'm asked to donate to the "cause of the week." I usually politely decline, but would rather not be asked in the first place.

GENTLE READER: Anyone who raises money for a living -- whether as a panhandler or as a professional "development" officer -- will tell you that it is hard work. It therefore amazes Miss Manners how many people voluntarily add such activities to their more immediate duties, be those serving dinner, reciting lines, or -- in an extreme but also increasingly common case -- getting married.

You may curtail your waiter's side business by appealing to his supervisor, who is unlikely to be supportive of his hope of singing his way out of the restaurant. Theater troupes and newlyweds are less likely to listen to management, assuming that it is not management that put them up to it. But you may merely smile at them, say "Thank you" to confuse them, and pass by without donating.

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Miss Manners for March 03, 2015

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | March 3rd, 2015 | Letter 2 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: My brother's wife passed several years ago, yet some family members continue using her name, to this day, in email addressed to my brother.

He is engaged again, and while we will always remember Olivia, I feel it is disrespectful not to stop addressing the email to "Olivia and Will" and have stated so.

The response has been, "He didn't tell me to stop, so I don't have to."

GENTLE READER: Shockingly, it is just possible that the relative who so responded was being serious.

Whether this is so or not, Miss Manners advises you to treat it as a misguided attempt at humor. She suggests, "I don't think joking is the kindest response to his loss and our hope that he is again finding happiness." This will be more effective than getting into an argument about whether a funeral is not sufficient notice that the person in question is no longer checking her email.

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Universal Uclick, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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Don't Blame Higher Education for People Who Are Rude

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | March 1st, 2015 | Letter 1 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: What do you think of a daughter who sends her mother the following requirement (among others) for a "cordial" relationship with her?

"Accept that husband is going to call you by your first name. We need you never again to register a verbal or nonverbal complaint about this."

This couple both hold Ph.D.s and appear to believe they are above all rules. The mother has no objection to being called "Mrs. Smith," or has even suggested MIL or Milly (for mother-in-law) but the couple insists it's their way or the highway.

They have also pushed off their family tree an aunt who verbalized that she and her husband did not appreciate being referred to by their first names by the nephew-in-law. This couple had invited themselves to visit the now-outcast aunt. After the visit (when the aunt and uncle bent over backward to not bring up any subjects that could cause dissension), the aunt wrote that future visits would not be in the cards until nephew-in-law referred to them with their familial status.

When has it become standard practice that the younger generation calls the shots on what to call family members? Is it that courteousness has given way to higher education?

GENTLE READER: You will forgive Miss Manners for leaping to the defense -- not of these rude doctors of philosophy, but of higher education. Lower education, too, for that matter.

It has long puzzled her that reports of rudeness are often accompanied by the surprised reaction of the complainers because the offenders were supposed to have been "educated," either at college or when earning graduate degrees.

There is education and education. Miss Manners does not expect universities to teach etiquette, other than insisting that students meet their particular behavior requirements, which are usually rather broad. Nor should etiquette training be expected in lower schools, where --just to have a workable classroom -- teachers have the burden of doing the parents' job in addition to their own.

Home education should include not only the etiquette rules necessary to navigate life, but the underlying principles of manners. These include respect (such as addressing people as they wish to be addressed), fairness (granting others the privileges one claims for oneself) and congeniality (not using threats as an argument).

Apparently this couple failed home education. If you attempt to do remedial work, Miss Manners suggests lecturing first on the principles before taking up the example of name choice.

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Miss Manners for March 01, 2015

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | March 1st, 2015 | Letter 2 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I am a teenage boy who apparently has impregnated a teenage girl. She says she's in love with me still, but also she will not get an abortion and insists that I pay support. I think this is all mood swings. How do I support her morally but not monetarily?

GENTLE READER: That is neither a moral nor a legal position. Miss Manners trusts that the young lady's lawyer will explain that to you.

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Universal Uclick, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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Current Invitation Isn't Contingent on One in the Future

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | February 26th, 2015 | Letter 1 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: We are the proud parents of two adult children, a gay 32-year-old son and a straight 27-year-old daughter.

My husband's oldest brother and his wife (who are our son's godparents) are politically and religiously conservative. The sister-in-law posts many opinions on Facebook about how same-sex marriage is ruining America, causing Christians to be persecuted, etc., although she is always friendly to our son in person.

If our son were getting married, we would invite them to the wedding, and if they refused to come, we would not later invite them to our daughter's wedding.

However, our daughter is engaged first. If we invite them to her wedding, I'm sure they will come. Is there any way to politely say, "We hope you will join us, but we respectfully ask you not to come if you would not attend X's possible future wedding, as we love our children equally"?

GENTLE READER: Despite their stance, your brother-in-law and his wife are not violating any etiquette rules. If they are being polite to your son, then you cannot be rude in return (although Miss Manners recommends that your family stay off their Facebook page).

A current invitation's validity cannot be dependent on the possible outcome of an imaginary future one. And no one is measuring how much you love your children. Invite your in-laws to your daughter's wedding and turn a blind eye if they decline a future invitation to your son's. But given your relatives' proclivity for spreading their opinions behind your family's back, wouldn't it really be better for everyone if they did?

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Charging Admission For Birthday Party Is Rude

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | February 26th, 2015 | Letter 2 of 2

DEAR MISS MANNERS: My 9-year-old granddaughter has been invited to two birthday parties recently. Both of them have been at event centers, and the parents have requested that the invitee bring admission money.

Is this a new trend now? Neither of these families is poverty-stricken.

My son has just about decided that his daughter will be declining any future invitations requiring him to send admission money. He always sends a nice gift. The gift plus admission money is getting a little expensive.

GENTLE READER: Your son is not only correct, but also more generous than Miss Manners would have been by sending a gift for an event that his daughter is not attending. Yes, charging admission for a party is rude. The fact that people follow this trend without considering their guests makes it even more so.

(Please send your questions to Miss Manners at her website, www.missmanners.com; to her email, dearmissmanners@gmail.com; or through postal mail to Miss Manners, Universal Uclick, 1130 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106.)

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