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Kids Need Lessons in Manners, but Not in School

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | August 31st, 2008

DEAR MISS MANNERS: Should manners and etiquette be taught in school, and why or why not?

I am asking because I read generational research into the younger generation, where it was mentioned that many in the younger generation are lacking in etiquette skills. I am noticing that every day there is an erosion in manners in society. I see it on the Internet, in public, at school, in customer service and many other places.

I believe that if this were taught as part of the general-ed curriculum in each and every school in America, we would see an improvement.

Do you agree or disagree with this, and why or why not?

GENTLE READER: You are not a school teacher, are you?

If you were, you would not be quite so blithe about giving these overworked people responsibility for yet another failing of society.

In fact, teachers are already saddled with teaching manners, simply because that is a prerequisite for learning anything else. Children who cannot sit quietly and listen and who do not have respect for authority cannot learn. And a great many are showing up in school without those simple skills.

Miss Manners normally sympathizes with parents, as well as with teachers. But this is a crucial part of child-rearing, and shirking it has serious repercussions for society. Furthermore, she has noticed that it is not, as is commonly believed, always the proverbial single teenaged parent with two jobs who neglects to administer this. It can equally well be two middle-aged corporate lawyers with a nanny who cannot bear to restrict their child's freedom or spoil their quality time with him by imposing rules.

The result is that teachers are trying to do parental work as well as their own. And often without the support, and perhaps even with the opposition, of the parents.

So yes, Miss Manners believes that in the present state of society, manners will have to be taught in school, although not the general refinements you would like. It will be hard enough to make and enforce rules for civilized behavior at school.

DEAR MISS MANNERS: My stepdaughter's wedding reception is at her mother's house, and I don't know if I'm just feeling weird about attending her reception at my husband's ex-wife's home.

I thought it truly distasteful for her to plan that, knowing my husband and his ex's past has not been good. I know he will go and be polite and nice, but I will have to sit there and bite my lip because all the while his ex will be telling people how they paid for everything and he did nothing. We have not been asked to help in any way but provide items for decorations.

I tried to suggest a reception for her mother's family and her fiance's family and a smaller one with us and her father's family closer to home (which all families are very large in number). Am I freaking out for no reason?

GENTLE READER: You have a reason, just not one that is a valid basis for complaint.

Your stepdaughter must think of it merely as her mother's house, a natural place to have one's wedding reception (and a lot more so than a rented castle, or whatever others are doing now). It seems to Miss Manners that if your husband can manage to be polite, surely you should be able to do so. A bitten lip is preferable to a bitter family.

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Statute of Limitations on Divorce?

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | August 28th, 2008

DEAR MISS MANNERS: On a job application or any application, when does one check the divorce box versus the single one? I say you're divorced for one year and check the divorced box, then you are to check the single box. One can't be divorced forever. Some people with kids prefer to use the divorced box, but one should use the single box if they are single.

GENTLE READER: The rule you propose is better than the common practice, Miss Manners admits -- the one by which a formerly married lady is called a divorcee forever, while the former husband immediately reverts to being a bachelor.

Still, you don't get to make up the rules. Well, socially, you do. But even Miss Manners does not get to mess with legal terms. If you tire of being single and are asked your status on a marriage license application, she is afraid that you have to come clean.

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I just received an invitation for our 60th-year high school class reunion -- yeah, I'm 78 and not accepting aging gracefully. I still exercise, eat healthy and stay mentally active.

The reunion will be held during the daylight hours -- probably since most of us remaining don't/can't drive at night. There will be a sit-down dinner with entertainment and "visiting" following.

Since many of us can't consume a whole dinner (as opposed to a buffet, where we could choose how much or what we want to eat), would it be proper to take along a plastic food bag to take home the food we can't eat from the served dinner, and which would otherwise be thrown out?

I understand the reasoning -- a lot of people our age would rather be "served" than go to a buffet. At restaurants with served-portion dinners, I usually take along a plastic container to take home what I can't eat or ask for one and don't feel the least embarrassed. (After all, I paid for it.)

But I don't know the protocol at reunions/receptions/banquets. That "overstuffed" feeling after my "eating's worth" is horrible and certainly doesn't contribute to a good night's sleep or weight control.

If this is construed as "cheap," so be it. Being a "Depression baby," I just hate to waste food or anything else! Besides, if it tasted good the first time, I'm sure it will taste as good or better the second time. What are your thoughts?

GENTLE READER: That this would be a good time for you to get in touch with the organizing committee and suggest that they order smaller portions, at least as an option. If you call them Health Servings or Youth Plates, everyone will want them.

Miss Manners will take you at your word that you wouldn't mind your classmates' getting up a collection so that you can afford to buy food. But while doggie bags are acceptable when buying one's own dinner at a restaurant, they are much less so on social occasions for which you have paid and utterly wrong when you have a host.

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Global Warming Leaves Woman Hot Under the Collar

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | August 26th, 2008

DEAR MISS MANNERS: With the onset of global warming, now more than ever must we be more environmentally aware and do more to ensure a safer planet for all of us. I believe that making small changes in everyday life can have a great impact on creating a more eco-friendly world.

That said, it irritates me to see other people being wasteful and ignorant of how their behavior is so damaging. For example, a roommate used to leave the water running while she brushed her teeth.

I can easily correct my friends and family, but what about people, like my roommate, with whom I am not as close? The incident with her occurred over a year ago, and I still feel guilty for not correcting her behavior.

As an environmentalist, I feel I should say something, but is it appropriate? And, if so, how should I say it?

GENTLE READER: With the same tact that Miss Manners is trying to muster in explaining to you that going around correcting others without invitation has (as you would put it) an impact on creating an unfriendly world.

That is not to say that you cannot discuss and explain environmentalism as long as you show people the respect that you feel for the planet.

Miss Manners gathers that you did not care for your roommate, or you would not be brooding about this a year later. But please get that irritation under control. If you are pleasant, you can talk about your dedication and even mention your habits -- saying, for example, that you turn off the water while brushing your teeth. That is more human-friendly than denouncing others' ignorance and issuing them orders.

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I am a 37-year-old Silicon Valley professional who wears hearing aids. I can hear without them, but it takes more effort.

Sometimes, my hearing aids cause the inside of my ears to itch. If I am alone in my cube, I will take them out, scratch inside my ears, and let my ears air out.

But what is proper etiquette if I am in a business meeting? Is it rude to take out a hearing aid and scratch inside my ear? I would still be able to hear the discussion if I did that. Should I excuse myself from the meeting and then go to the restroom to do it? If I do that, I might miss hearing some important information. I also think that leaving the meeting might be considered worse etiquette. So what should I do?

GENTLE READER: If getting a more comfortable hearing aid is possible, Miss Manners strongly urges you to do so. Otherwise, whoever is speaking when you remove yours is going to be rattled, thinking you consider him not worth listening to.

Her back-up suggestions are, in order of propriety:

-- Scratch before the meeting. If the meeting lasts too long for that to help, you may be sure that there will be other people excusing themselves for other reasons.

-- Confide in a colleague and ask that person to take notes while you are absent.

-- Learn to lean a hand against the offending ear, and perform this without anyone's being able to see what you are doing.

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