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Well-Heeled Woman Confused About Style

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | August 12th, 2008

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I am confused about the growing habit of wearing high heels without stockings. I feel as though I am not dressed properly without hose, and yet people will deliberately ask me (even at embassy functions) if I am wearing stockings, as though I am making a major mistake.

Is there a rule, a difference between wearing peptone or sandal high heels and pumps? What is the purpose of sandalfoot hose if not for showing toes when dressed up? Is there a difference between warmer and colder climates? Is there a rule about wearing different style shoes for dress?

GENTLE READER: The world situation must be better than Miss Manners thought if people at embassies have the luxury of getting worked up over whether the guests are wearing stockings.

Perhaps this is merely a weather-related conversation opener, to which the answer should be, "Yes, and I thought I'd faint from the heat while I was trying to get a taxi."

Because of course the answer is yes, although it is also the case that people should not be checking out one another's legs to find out. Visibly bare legs (Miss Manners knows and says nothing about whatever is hidden under long skirts or trousers) are wrong for any even slightly formal occasion, and bare toes (as opposed to those discreetly veiled inside those strappy evening shoes that look so good and feel so terrible) are even more wrong.

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I am a student working at a summer camp with 120 campers. Every day we have to move all of those children out in half an hour with a precise system of binders and designated areas and yellow tape.

Some parents are making business calls when a person approaches them with a binder, and they don't seem to want to hang up. This slows down our system considerably. What can I say to the parents who cannot wait to talk about their stock options?

GENTLE READER: Whatever you say, they are not listening. As a student summer employee, you will not have the authority to make rules, and Miss Manners is afraid that parents who have already shown themselves willing to inconvenience others will resent any attempt to comply.

Ah, but as a student summer employee, you will enhance your own standing with your employers if you make suggestions -- for them to issue as rules -- that will improve conditions. The one Miss Manners recommends is that two lines be established for pick-ups: cell phone lines and cell phone-free lines. The camp will not have to worry about policing this; other parents will be only too eager to do so.

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I took my family to lunch, and the granddaughter gave the food orders. I told her, "You give the order to the man in the group and he passes it on to the waiter." RIGHT?

GENTLE READER: Not right enough for you to shout it like that.

Your granddaughter should have given you her order because you were the host. That rule still holds. And nice, old-fashioned ladies like Miss Manners still direct their choices to the gentleman with whom they are dining, to the bewilderment of young waiters, who can hear perfectly well what is being said.

But the host factor takes precedence. Should your granddaughter take you out to lunch, you should give her your order.

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Noise Ruins Afternoon Picnic

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | August 10th, 2008

DEAR MISS MANNERS: The week before I planned a Sunday picnic, I worked very hard getting my backyard all weeded and flower-filled. I pride myself on my little "English Garden" and couldn't wait to entertain in it. We decided to start late in the day (4 p.m.) so that all the neighbors would have their noisy mowing, etc., done.

My company came, we gathered our drinks and the hors d'oeuvres and settled ourselves outside. That's when my neighbor, whose backyard abuts ours, cranked up his power washer. In all fairness, we have a 6-foot fence, and I really believe he didn't see us.

Nevertheless, we could not hear each other talk, and it really put a cramp in my plans. My husband tried to get the guy's attention (to no avail) to ask him to please shut it down for an hour. The rest of us protested this, since (I guess) everyone has a right to do whatever they please on their own property.

So we all trooped back inside. An hour or so later, when the noise stopped, my husband (furious by this time) went over and told the neighbor (angrily) that he had ruined our picnic. And, of course, now we have bad blood between us.

I think we did the mannerly thing by going inside and just trying to make the best of it. And I think my husband was wrong in losing his temper with Mr. Neighbor, yet I really don't blame him. I was mad, too.

Did we have the right to ask him to shut down so that we could picnic in peace and quiet? After all, it WAS a Sunday. Isn't there some unwritten manners rule about making that kind of noise on a Sunday? What should we have done?

GENTLE READER: Why couldn't you have gotten your neighbor's attention by going over, tapping him on the shoulder and saying "Excuse me" before asking him, as a favor, to use his power washer later?

And why are you carrying on about rights instead of courtesies? A right, it seems to Miss Manners, would be to have a peaceful neighborhood, and your husband's action worked against that.

As you acknowledge, your neighbor was unaware of your party, which was held long after the hours on which it is understood that noise (including party noise) might disturb those who sleep late. You have no reason to suppose that he might not have complied with your request had it been delivered courteously. An apology from your husband is now in order.

DEAR MISS MANNERS: The service people that come to my home -- handymen, repairmen, food delivery, etc. -- all seem to think I want to hear about their lives, their health and even their pets. I feel as though I am being held captive and paying for it as well.

I don't want to be rude because I need the services they were hired to do, but I think they are rude for using my time. I do not want to be their friend, and I am not interested in their lives. All I want is for them to provide the service they have been hired to do. Is there a polite way to get this message across without coming on too strong?

GENTLE READER: "That's very interesting. Now I'm afraid I have to get to work, too. I'll be right within. Call if you need me."

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In Time, Nickname Will Take Hold

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | August 7th, 2008

DEAR MISS MANNERS: My husband and I have already decided upon the name of our soon-to-be-born second child; however, we plan to call her by a shortened version of her first name.

Is it appropriate to put the nickname on the birth announcement cards in quotation marks, or should we just wait to tell people personally? Neither name is particularly common, so the shortened name would not be immediately obvious, as it is with names like Kate/Katherine.

I know that you would most prefer that I handwrite the announcements on my stationary, but with an older child who will be just 17 months when blessing number two arrives, this is a task not likely to be completed before the new baby enters nursery school. I do promise to write my thank you notes on time and without the use of preprinted thank you cards, though.

GENTLE READER: A moderately grateful Miss Manners believes that this will be time enough to mention the nickname. They are unlikely to hold extensive correspondence with your child before that.

But she would like to remind you, in your dealings with others, that nicknames are never obvious, and it is always rude to assume them without specific knowledge. Katherine could just as easily be known as Kathy, Kay or Mildred (her middle name). Or Speedy (never mind).

DEAR MISS MANNERS: At my place of employment, where we have all women, it is common practice to pool money to buy gifts for each other's special events, such as weddings, baby showers, etc.

It is not mandatory or pressured, and it is made clear that you may or may not contribute without anyone being ostracized. You may give as little or as much as you want, or you may choose not to give at all, and you still are included in signing a card for the recipient.

This works well in general, but we have one person who feels the need to give an "extra something" gift if the occasion is to benefit management. No one ever gets an "extra" gift from her unless they are someone in a position of authority.

We all feel that this is obvious brown-nosing, including the management. The offense is particularly annoying because it is done at the presenting of the pool gift giving and not done discreetly and privately. No one can decide why it is bothersome, but it tends to ruffle feathers each time.

This has gone on for eight years, with various people in managerial positions. The last time, I wanted to tell the offender in private that this is improper and hurtful to the others, but knew there would be repercussions, as she would go to management and complain that I was causing upset. The bigger offense would then be mine, I'm sure. No one seems to know what to do, if anything, but we feel this is improper nonetheless. What is your opinion?

GENTLE READER: That the problem is not yours, nor is it your other colleagues'. This has been going on for eight years, and everyone is on to the motive. You have not told Miss Manners that it has resulted in this person's raking in the raises and promotions, in which case you would have a formal complaint. She suspects that rather it has resulted in the recipients' characterizing their employee in the same unfortunate term that you use.

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