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No Cutlery Semaphore Required

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | August 10th, 2004

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I recently got involved in a difficult situation regarding my boyfriend's ex-girlfriend. E-mails were written by both of us that were rude and insulting; mine more so than hers. This girl's boyfriend then e-mailed others involved and it has, of course, become entirely a mess.

I know that I cannot take back the things I said nor would I want to. I do not feel remorse over my negative opinions of her behavior. Apologizing for my behavior and my words would be false on my part and I believe would not produce any positive results.

However, this couple is now telling mutual friends that if I am going to be at social functions they will not be there and doing so in a manner that suggests the hosts should "take sides" and tell me I am not invited. This is putting hosts in very difficult positions and my boyfriend as well, since these people involved are his friends and have been for many years but they don't want me invited to their gatherings. I have no idea how to get out of this situation and would appreciate any suggestions you could give.

GENTLE READER: No, you probably won't appreciate them. You have already rejected the entire etiquette arsenal of defense mechanisms for getting out of trouble that you have gotten yourself into.

These are: showing (if not feeling) remorse, claiming that what was insulting was not really what you meant and apologizing. Oh, and flowers, but Miss Manners somehow doubts that these are what you have in mind.

By your own admission, you were rude and insulting. Although the other party doesn't sound charming either, you admit you were worse. Having offended them, you should not be surprised that they were offended. And apparently others agree.

Miss Manners is sorry, but she is fresh out of ideas about how to be rude and get away with it. Claiming identity theft?

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Ill Communication

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | August 8th, 2004

One of the side effects of serious illness is a sudden drop in the level of tact to which the sick person is exposed.

You might suppose that those who are sensitive enough to show concern for the afflictions of others would have the sensitivity not to contribute to their discomfort. Miss Manners is sorry to report that you would be wrong.

Illness often brings out the worst in the well. They accost strangers. They point out physical symptoms. They ask nosy questions. They offer unsolicited and unsubstantiated medical and physiological advice. They relate tales of others with the same or a similar disease to make the point that miraculous recoveries should be expected. Or they relate such tales to make the point that there are much worse cases, which the person they are addressing should feel lucky not to have.

Why do they do keep doing this sort of thing?

They'll tell you why. It's because they care. And because they want to cheer up the sick.

These are noble motives, and Miss Manners does not doubt that some of the people who claim to harbor them actually do care. It all goes to show that good feelings can be bad guides to good behavior.

Two of the most natural reactions to serious illness are curiosity and fear, and these are the ones that prompt the worst behavior. The curious fire off questions that not only invade the privacy of the ill but keep them conversationally confined to that one topic. The fearful just shun them. Both kinds defend themselves on the basis of their own emotions ("I was just curious" or "I can't stand to see him like that") without so much as considering the emotions that their behavior is apt to cause.

This makes it difficult for Miss Manners to count them among the caring. But even those who do care, to greater or lesser degrees, are mistaken if they believe that they can always depend on the simple and direct expression of their feelings to make anyone feel better. Other than themselves, that is.

They have to learn to gear their expressions of concern to their general knowledge of the sick person and on-the-spot assessments of that person's mood at a given time. Even inquiries about someone's immediate state of health can be annoying if they are too frequent, or if they come at a time when that person was feeling chipper enough to concentrate on something else and didn't need to be reminded.

Discussions of the disease should be initiated -- or not -- by the person who has it. Miss Manners has never yet heard such a person beg someone who neither has nor treats the disease to cough up every scrap he has heard about it and every case history he knows, but these should not be offered without an invitation.

Those overdue calls that people make on hearing bad news can be welcome or depressing. The ones that take the tone of "I miss you" are usually welcome. The ones that take the tone of "I figured I'd better call before I miss you" are not.

A question sympathizers might ask themselves is not only how the sick person feels now, deeply as they may worry about this, but how that person will feel after their concern has been expressed.

DEAR MISS MANNERS -- I am recently divorced after 21 years. Family and friends have come up to me many times and have said, "We never liked him. Did you know that?" They were so proud of themselves. They may have thought they were trying to make me feel better, but I assure you, it hurt and still does. I consider it an insult. What can I say to them that will stop them dead in their tracks?

GENTLE READER -- "Well, I did." And, presuming that you can reasonably add this, "as a matter of fact, I still do."

Miss Manners understands how galling it is to be told that people with whom you socialized were secretly disparaging your spouse all along, even when things were going well. Makes you wonder about their opinion of you, beginning with how naive you were not to see his undesirability when they did.

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I am recently divorced after 21 years. Family and friends have come up to me many times and have said, "We never liked him. Did you know that?" They were so proud of themselves. They may have thought they were trying to make me feel better, but I assure you, it hurt and still does. I consider it an insult. What can I say to them that will stop them dead in their tracks?

GENTLE READER: "Well, I did." And, presuming that you can reasonably add this, "as a matter of fact, I still do."

Miss Manners understands how galling it is to be told that people with whom you socialized were secretly disparaging your spouse all along, even when things were going well. Makes you wonder about their opinion of you, beginning with how naive you were not to see his undesirability when they did.

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On Knowing When to Leave

Miss Manners by by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
by Judith Martin, Nicholas Ivor Martin and Jacobina Martin
Miss Manners | August 5th, 2004

DEAR MISS MANNERS: My husband and I have very different views on what is a proper amount of time to stay after dinner when we are dinner guests in someone's home.

He wants to leave shortly after eating because he is uncomfortable, and I think it is rude to appear to "eat and run." However, we both agree that we don't know what a proper interval should be and how to leave without appearing rude or ungracious.

GENTLE READER: Why is your husband uncomfortable after eating? Should he be consulting his tailor about that?

If you are merely talking about the discomfort of having to hang around with people of whom he is beginning to tire, he is out of luck. Miss Manners is afraid that dinner guests must linger a bit rather than reveal that they came only for the eats.

"A bit" is more easily defined when the hosts serve coffee in the living room. It takes perhaps half an hour to serve and drink the coffee, after which you are free to go. When stranded at the table after the meal is long finished, it is necessary to ascertain that no relocation is planned, so it may take somewhat longer.

Not too much longer, however. You don't want the hosts to begin to think that the guests came not just for the meal, but for the duration.

DEAR MISS MANNERS: My employer has offered to pay for tickets to a public event for each employee, his or her spouse, and his or her children, but has made it clear that others the employee wishes to invite will be at the employee's expense. Since the event does not interest me, I had previously stated my intention not to attend.

However, a fellow employee has asked me to register, fraudulently, to attend the event, so that, apparently, when I fail to appear, the person in question can use my (ill-gotten) ticket for someone who does not meet the specified criteria. I suppressed, perhaps wrongly, my initial reaction, which would have been a somewhat indignant, possibly loud, "Excuse me?! You are asking me to steal from our employer on your behalf?!"

An alternative I am considering is to conveniently "forget" to register so that the fellow employee can be left in the position of paying at the gate. However, this person will likely follow up with me before the event, as my having failed to register will be on a viewable database.

Can you provide me an appropriate response? In the course of my continued employment, I must interact with this person, so I am at a loss as to what to say. Also, I'm baffled as to why this person would think I would comply, as I do not, I believe, give the impression of being larcenous.

GENTLE READER: Nor should you give the impression that your colleague is larcenous. Suppressing your initial reaction was a really good idea.

The approach Miss Manners favors is to assume that your colleague acted out of mistaken goodwill. You can then kindly explain, "Oh, I don't think that's what Mr. Boss meant when he was so generous. But I'll ask him, and if it's all right with him, I'd be glad to."

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